(UEFA) Football Thread - Football not Soccer

[oojason]

Meh. Be careful what you wish for. UEFA and FIFA certainly have their flaws but they do occasionally concern themselves with what's good for the sport in general; especially since the smaller federations carry significant power. As a supporter of a club that's absolutely insignificant in the grand scheme of things in Europe I don't see how any good could come out of this for me. The English are just butthurt because they don't rule European football anymore imo and the big clubs are greedy to get a bigger slice of the pie as always

I'd prefer to see a governing body open and transparent - with representation from players, refs, fans, coaches and owners (all levels from within the game).

An organisation that clamps down on any corruption or conflict of interest - and that is truly open to input, and constructive criticism.

I don't see what the English being 'butthurt because they don't rule the game anymore' has to do with anything - this is a group made from many European clubs.

but hey-ho.

 

[Jax]

Your country is England and there's nothing exciting about their team either!

Always good drama with ENG even if we fail when it matters. Anyway the season is almost upon us so going to do my annual PL prediction...

1. Man Utd
2. Chelsea
3. Man City
4. Arsenal
5. Liverpool
6. Tottenham
7. Everton
8. Stoke City
9. Sunderland
10. Fulham
11. Aston Villa
12. Bolton
13. West Brom
14. Norwich City
15. Newcastle Utd
16. Wolves
17. Blackburn
18. Swansea
19. Wigan
20. QPR

Oh and for my Forest I am saying 15th because we don't have a full squad still and looks like that won't change.

 

[HappyDayRiot]

Cardiff will be in at 9th with a bullet. Swansea will stay up, of this I have no doubt. QPR and Norwich, however, are both going to drop like a stone. In QPR's case, more like a boulder. I believe I have Blackburn pencilled in to join them, though might revise that to Newcastle, who seem to be self-destructing once again.

I have my Prem table prediction written down in work. I'll post it tomorrow.

EDIT: and here it is

1 Manchester United
2 Manchester City
3 Chelsea
4 Arsenal
5 Spurs
6 Liverpool
7 Everton
8 Fulham
9 Sunderland
10 Bolton
11 Stoke
12 Villa
13 WBA
14 Wolves
15 Wigan
16 Newcastle
17 Jacks

18 Blackburn
19 Norwich
20 QPR (and by some distance, up to 12 points adrift)

 

[HappyDayRiot]

Ah, football returns and what could be a better start to the season than mugging West Ham on their own patch, on live TV, and in injury-time to boot? (beating Birmingham maybe?)

Early days of course, but West Ham certainly didn't look the force that's going to walk through the division as many predicted. There's no comparison between them and the strong Newcastle side that dropped down a few years ago, and they could yet still lose some of their best players before the month is out. Cardiff, on the other hand, looked a lot more fresh and resilient than we've been in a while. Gerrard has slotted back in well, and Cowie, Taylor and Gesetede look very good acquisitions. Even Marshall, back between the sticks after a year out, had a superb game. Miller and Earnshaw can't play together, though - we still need another senior striker to pair up with one of them. Jury's still out on Gunnarsson, who managed to throw two throw-ins straight out of play, and Conway who was anonymous.

I also watched AFC Wimbledon's first game in the League. I know they're risen a long way in a short time, but it was like parks football!

ps boring boring Forest

 

[Starkers]

Yeah beating Birmingham was good That said we've won the opening game of the season three years running now and haven't set the league on fire!

Will have to sort out my PL predictions!

 

[trekkiebaggio]

So glad the season is back, and Saints actually managed to win an opening game!! Shock horror! And we played some good football as well!

Also, just seen that Chamberlain has gone to Arsenal. It was always likely and it's a shame that he couldn't stay for the rest of this season but I suppose when these opportunities come along you have to take them. I don't begrudge him for leaving, I'm just wondering why Arsenal are buying him now, it doesn't seem like they're in desperate need for a winger.

I'm just glad no-one's been sniffing around Lallana.

 

[HappyDayRiot]

I forgot about Southampton - they destroyed Leeds. All three goals really well taken and made a mockery of their new league status. Hopefully, a sign of times to come for both sides.

 

[Roger Wilco]

It's funny that Bayern lost their first match yesterday, and because of a mistake of Neurer no less, very amusing. Also Dortmund looks very, very strong. It will be interesting to see how this still quite young team can cope with the stress of the Champions League and whether or not that will affect their performance in the league, but judging by what I see last weekend, all other German teams that aim at winning the title should be a bit concerned imo.

 

[Starkers]

I forgot about Southampton - they destroyed Leeds. All three goals really well taken and made a mockery of their new league status. Hopefully, a sign of times to come for both sides.

Yeah, I don't care what anyone says about West Ham and Leicester, I think this year will be as open as last year, and I guarentee a surprise team goes up (hopefully Derby )

 

[Jax]

ENG vs. Holland + all London football games this weekend are set to be cancelled due to police having no officers to spare.

 

[Starkers]

Hmm, I wonder if Forest vs. County will go ahead tonight?

 

[{ Emilia }]

It's funny that Bayern lost their first match yesterday, and because of a mistake of Neurer no less, very amusing. Also Dortmund looks very, very strong. It will be interesting to see how this still quite young team can cope with the stress of the Champions League and whether or not that will affect their performance in the league, but judging by what I see last weekend, all other German teams that aim at winning the title should be a bit concerned imo.

I watched the Dortmund game on Friday and it was really lovely. I vastly prefer Dortmund's game to Barcelona's. Barcelona is lulling you in and making you fall asleep. No emotion in their game. Just endless passing in midfield and then finally some attack.

Dortmund on the other hand is fast-paced combination football that's more vertical than horizontal. Even their defenders don't make horizontal passes. Mats Hummels didn't pass the ball to one of the other defenders all night. It was always straight into midfield or even further forward. His passing and vision is amazing for a defender.
And Götze/Kagawa/Gündogan/Großkreutz up front are a joy to watch.

Guardiola and Mourinho should be envious. I wonder if they liked it... ok... I admit I only mentioned Mourinho to post this:

Spoiler: Mourinho

 

[Jax]

These rioters need a good fucking kicking now though I guess the football media can switch to this stupid fucking pissing match with the football league/Premier league who are banning reporters from games.

It all comes down to the leagues wanting to restrict the use of live interaction with fans, twitter etc, WHY? who knows really there just being dicks and the newspapers said they won't abide by the rules. Henry Winter of the Telegraph was told last saturday he could not go to the forest match but went anyway in the normal stands insead of the press box. However he now been banned 100% from the stadium because the football league has told Forest and every other club they cannot allow entry of any paper reporter even if they don't go in the press box.

FA grow a pair and overrule the leagues will ya ?

 

[HappyDayRiot]

It's funny that Bayern lost their first match yesterday, and because of a mistake of Neurer no less, very amusing. Also Dortmund looks very, very strong. It will be interesting to see how this still quite young team can cope with the stress of the Champions League and whether or not that will affect their performance in the league, but judging by what I see last weekend, all other German teams that aim at winning the title should be a bit concerned imo.

I watched the Dortmund game on Friday and it was really lovely. I vastly prefer Dortmund's game to Barcelona's. Barcelona is lulling you in and making you fall asleep. No emotion in their game. Just endless passing in midfield and then finally some attack.

Dortmund on the other hand is fast-paced combination football that's more vertical than horizontal. Even their defenders don't make horizontal passes. Mats Hummels didn't pass the ball to one of the other defenders all night. It was always straight into midfield or even further forward. His passing and vision is amazing for a defender.
And Götze/Kagawa/Gündogan/Großkreutz up front are a joy to watch.

Guardiola and Mourinho should be envious. I wonder if they liked it... ok... I admit I only mentioned Mourinho to post this:

Spoiler: Mourinho

Completely agree about Barcelona, and I'm looking forward to seeing Dortmund in the Champions League this season (and Napoli too, come to think of it). Great to see some fresh faces in there... except for Man City. I've had a soft spot for Dortmund since I went there for a long weekend back in 2004 - not sure they were any good back then though!

Bet Derby are wishing they'd had a riot or two to avoid this embarrassment - 0-3 to Shrewsbury at half time. Comical.

 

[Jax]

Just watched Forest/County online and we scored in last minute of extra time to take the game to a shootout and came within 1 pen of losing but...

in the end we won 4-3 after 6 pens

HURRAY

 

[Starkers]

Ah well we restored a bit of pride in the second half at least, and we weren't alone in getting knocked out.

We're concentrating on the league this season anyway

 

[Starkers]

Well for what it's worth here are my predictions. I actually had QPR going down at first but I really do think Wigan and Blackburn are doomed, and given how easily Derby outplayed Swansea I fear they'll be swamped. And this is, unfortunately, the year Arsenal really start to slide.

1 Man Utd
2 Man City
3 Liverpool
4 Chelsea
5 Tottenham
6 Arsenal
7 Sunderland
8 Everton
9 Aston Villa
10 Bolton
11 Stoke
12 West Brom
13 Newcastle
14 Fulham
15 Wolves
16 Norwich
17 QPR
18 Wigan
19 Blackburn
20 Swansea

 

[SPCTRE]

It's funny that Bayern lost their first match yesterday, and because of a mistake of Neurer no less, very amusing. Also Dortmund looks very, very strong. It will be interesting to see how this still quite young team can cope with the stress of the Champions League and whether or not that will affect their performance in the league, but judging by what I see last weekend, all other German teams that aim at winning the title should be a bit concerned imo.

I watched the Dortmund game on Friday and it was really lovely. I vastly prefer Dortmund's game to Barcelona's. Barcelona is lulling you in and making you fall asleep. No emotion in their game. Just endless passing in midfield and then finally some attack.

Dortmund on the other hand is fast-paced combination football that's more vertical than horizontal. Even their defenders don't make horizontal passes. Mats Hummels didn't pass the ball to one of the other defenders all night. It was always straight into midfield or even further forward. His passing and vision is amazing for a defender.
And Götze/Kagawa/Gündogan/Großkreutz up front are a joy to watch.

Guardiola and Mourinho should be envious. I wonder if they liked it... ok... I admit I only mentioned Mourinho to post this:

Spoiler: Mourinho

LOL { Emilia } Agreed on the Dortmund game. Grudgingly, but I have to agree.

@Roger Wilco
I really feel for Manuel Neuer, and not just because I'm a Bayern supporter. He's a great guy and a great keeper as well.

He had a very hard time (and will continue to have one for quite some time) winning over those Bayern supporters who opposed his transfer. Messing up uncharacteristically in the first game will make things harder.

I'm convinced he will succeed at Bayern in the long term though.

 

[Garak]

Fabby has left Arsenal for a team that doesn't even really need him, Barcelona.

With it looking like Nasri will go as well and Wenger's penchant for bringing in young, inexperienced, nubile and pretty teenage boys, looks like the best Arsenal can hope for is around 7th or 8th.

What a great day this has turned out to be!

 

[Starkers]

Well Wenger might now sign a 35 year old keeper, Joey Barton and two hard British central defenders...

Or possibly three 15 year olds from Belgium...