Sean, have you created a 3D Mesh of the Titan?
U.S.S. TITAN -- THE WINNER!
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I have a friend that does 3D. He has created it and it will be the mesh that is on the cover of book 4. I am not sure when Pocket is releasing the cover image.
Below are the early test shot I posted a while back.
For the final rendered shot you will have to wait until the cover is revealed.
For the final rendered shot you will have to wait until the cover is revealed.
Below are the early test shot I posted a while back.
For the final rendered shot you will have to wait until the cover is revealed.
For the final rendered shot you will have to wait until the cover is revealed.
Can't wait!!
Sean, I was ambivalent about your winning design when I first saw it. I thought it was the best of the finalists, but it didn’t really stand out for me. Having seen these early 3D meshes, I have to say that I now like your design a lot. It just comes alive in 3D. I can’t wait for the cover.
Thanks, I think the final version of the meshes turned out great. I can't wait to show every body. Ellory worked really hard on it to make sure it met both
my standards and Marco's.
Sean,
I've watched this thread in silence since its inception, catching little glimpses of your continued work on the I.S.S. ships as well as these new 3D renders of your winning design. I have to admit, even though I am biased towards mine (runner up James Dukes from West Cola, SC being my real name) your ship has steadily grown on me. A worthy design - definitely can see this bearing the name "Titan" for Riker and his crew.
Maybe one of these days I will update my own Titan. Just because you won doesn't mean I have to stop envisioning my ship while I'm reading the novels!
Congrats again and keep up the good work.
I've watched this thread in silence since its inception, catching little glimpses of your continued work on the I.S.S. ships as well as these new 3D renders of your winning design. I have to admit, even though I am biased towards mine (runner up James Dukes from West Cola, SC being my real name) your ship has steadily grown on me. A worthy design - definitely can see this bearing the name "Titan" for Riker and his crew.
Maybe one of these days I will update my own Titan. Just because you won doesn't mean I have to stop envisioning my ship while I'm reading the novels!
Congrats again and keep up the good work.
dukesman said:
Sean,
I've watched this thread in silence since its inception, catching little glimpses of your continued work on the I.S.S. ships as well as these new 3D renders of your winning design. I have to admit, even though I am biased towards mine (runner up James Dukes from West Cola, SC being my real name) your ship has steadily grown on me. A worthy design - definitely can see this bearing the name "Titan" for Riker and his crew.
Maybe one of these days I will update my own Titan. Just because you won doesn't mean I have to stop envisioning my ship while I'm reading the novels!
Congrats again and keep up the good work.
Thanks,
If Cary can keep going with his, I say keep going with yours. I would love to see it fleshed out.
I think the 3D shots came out good too. Almost looks like it came straight from the small screen.
Heck yeah... I really want to see yours done up as a "real" ship. I'm still curious what those funky domes will look like as-rendered! (I picture them as big transparent glass domes with some sort of really large sensor devices visible inside of them... like a big sensor "turret"... but in a shirt-sleeve environment inside the dome. Is that even remotely what you had in mind?Titan Designer said:
dukesman said:
Sean,
I've watched this thread in silence since its inception, catching little glimpses of your continued work on the I.S.S. ships as well as these new 3D renders of your winning design. I have to admit, even though I am biased towards mine (runner up James Dukes from West Cola, SC being my real name) your ship has steadily grown on me. A worthy design - definitely can see this bearing the name "Titan" for Riker and his crew.
Maybe one of these days I will update my own Titan. Just because you won doesn't mean I have to stop envisioning my ship while I'm reading the novels!
Congrats again and keep up the good work.
Thanks,
If Cary can keep going with his, I say keep going with yours. I would love to see it fleshed out.
Anyone who's curious about what I've been doing... you can check out the thread where I'm posting my work-in-process
http://www.trekbbs.com/threads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=5730227&an=0&page=0#Post5730227
and if you just wanna check out the current state of the ship model, in my modeling program (Pro/ENGINEER) and without the "special effects" I'm adding in my rendering program (Maya), well...
(but be forewarned, this is a BIG image file... 2560 x 2048 pixels).
Personally, I hope to do a "fleet render" at some point with Titan (Luna Class), Achernar (Vega Class - my ship) and hey, maybe even put James' and Phillip's ships in there too... all flying in fleet formation!
Despite misinterpretations that some people made early on, I've always liked Sean's design (with one minor techie quibble about impulse engines having been my only real beef with it). If you look at my "ship diagram" for the Vega class, I've added the Luna Class into my "size comparison chart" at the lower left in fact (and also have my own take on the Luna class... Sean's design with no roll bar and top-side-mounted engines... a "light cruiser" complement to Titan's "frigate" style design... in the chart as well.)
James... DO IT. I really wanna see your ship fleshed out.
Hey Marco, any chance that we could maybe get a tri-fold poster of the Titan in the next book? I don't think a cover will really do it justice, at least not until we're more familiar with it. I'd love to see a scene depicted from the fourth book, or maybe a collection of scenes from the book.. or maybe a front and back poster with an MSD cutaway on the back or something.
Okay, if you didn't notice, I really like the design and would like to see more than just the glimpse we may get every 6-12 months from here on out.
Okay, if you didn't notice, I really like the design and would like to see more than just the glimpse we may get every 6-12 months from here on out.
That brings to mind an interesting point...
Supposing (and yes, I realize just how big of a "supposition" this is!)... supposing that the market for this was there... could S&S/Pocket/whoever do a "technical manual" on this ship, being as they own the design rather than Paramount (as I understand it)? Or would that still be beholden to Paramount for full control and approval? Yeah, the term "Trek" in the name would clearly make it subject to Paramount licensing fees... but Paramount CONTROL (ie, approval and "veto power?") I'm not so sure...
Supposing (and yes, I realize just how big of a "supposition" this is!)... supposing that the market for this was there... could S&S/Pocket/whoever do a "technical manual" on this ship, being as they own the design rather than Paramount (as I understand it)? Or would that still be beholden to Paramount for full control and approval? Yeah, the term "Trek" in the name would clearly make it subject to Paramount licensing fees... but Paramount CONTROL (ie, approval and "veto power?") I'm not so sure...
Yes, Paramount owns everything Trek, lock, stock, and barrel. They'd get approval over any Titan TM or blueprints, just as they get approval over the Titan fiction (remember, two of the Titan contest judges belonged to the licensing department ).
There's also the current problem with stuff like tech manuals not selling well. As for pullouts and such in the back/middle of a Titan paperback, I know there were a lot of headaches getting something similar included in the first Vanguard book. Not sure if said headaches preclude a repeat of the experiment in the near future.
).There's also the current problem with stuff like tech manuals not selling well. As for pullouts and such in the back/middle of a Titan paperback, I know there were a lot of headaches getting something similar included in the first Vanguard book. Not sure if said headaches preclude a repeat of the experiment in the near future.
Dayton, I suspect you'd agree with me on this... but part of the reason that "things like tech manuals haven't been selling well" was the fact that Paramount just kept recycling the same stuff over and over and over, with new covers and maybe a few new entries or whatever.
There's definitely a market for this stuff... look at the "incredible cross-sections" stuff that's been put out for Star Wars in recent years. Or the "Natural History of Skull Island" book that came out.
The trick is not that there's no market, but rather that the expectation has become that they can shove any old recycled stuff out there and have us spend a ridiculously high price for it.
There was never an "Enterprise" tech manual. There was never an Enterprise-E tech manual. Or a Voyager one for that matter. The last one done was the DS-9 one, right? How long ago, eight or ten years ago? And let's be blunt... this was NOT a "technical manual" at all... the last REAL technical work was the TNG tech manual, and even that fell short is some ways (not a single "blueprint" type drawing in the entire book... sheeshh!!!).
This is sort of like why AMT decided that the "trek model" business was dried up. They thought that there was no market for that sort of kit, but they were just recycling the same old kits in new boxes year after year. But with Bandai and Polar Lights (pre-acquisition), the lie was definitely put to this assumption! New, high-quality product will always have a market.
(This is not directly so much at you as it is at the basis for the statement, which may very well not reflect your personal perspective...)
Sad, but true. There just isn't a large enough market for these types of books anymore, if there ever really was.
My question is, would it be possible to do these in an eBook format? I suspect that the real cost involved in these books is the research and actual creation of the material, so probably not, but we can always hope.
I'd agree with you if that's what happened.
I simply go with what the editors tell me with respect to the situation. I have little reason to believe they'd be lying to me.
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