I've just watched though all of Twin Peaks, including Fire Walk with Me. Good stuff. Any fans of it here?
Twin Peaks
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I think it's a terrific series, until the identity of Laura Palmer's killer is revealed, and her father dies.
After that, the show declines markedly in quality, until the last few episodes of the second season, when it improves once again. The second season finale was one of the best shows in the series.
So, overall, yes: I'm a fan of the series--enough to own it on DVD. But some of those second-season episodes are tough to watch.
After that, the show declines markedly in quality, until the last few episodes of the second season, when it improves once again. The second season finale was one of the best shows in the series.
So, overall, yes: I'm a fan of the series--enough to own it on DVD. But some of those second-season episodes are tough to watch.
That's about right, I'd say. The lack of direction after the killer's revealed does wear a bit, but that last episode is something special again. I understand that while Lynch never wanted to reveal the killer's identity, Frost felt it would be cheating the audience not to, and I agree with Frost. And we wouldn't have got this scene, which I found profoundly moving (spoilers):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3sZI8k20D0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3sZI8k20D0
I snapped Twin Peaks up on DVD when it was released last year, and I enjoyed it immensely. The show loses it's identity for a while when Laura's murderer was found and that storyline was resolved, which was a shame. It was an unfortunate creative mistake that took until towards the end of the second season to resolve, though by then it was too late for the show.
I'd have loved it if Twin Peaks had carried on for another season, just for some resolution on that amazing cliffhanger that we were left on. Perhaps it could have been more like season one/first third of season two.
I'd have loved it if Twin Peaks had carried on for another season, just for some resolution on that amazing cliffhanger that we were left on. Perhaps it could have been more like season one/first third of season two.
Too late for a return d'yer reckon? Some agent investigates what happened with Cooper?
I was 20 years and old a devoted fan when Twin Peaks became the most talked-about show in the country, but even then I felt that it should have been a limited-run series. The Laura Palmer investigation was a limited premise; even if they had stretched out solving the murder, as Lynch and Frost have said they wanted to do, it would still have to resolve at some point or they would be spinning their wheels and the audience would lose interest. And after that, where do you go? It was pretty clear that the plot lines post-Palmer were a lot weaker, and it was becoming strained as to why the FBI would keep Cooper there. The idea of a series that just goes on and on for years doesn't work for everything, and Twin Peaks probably lasted about as long as it was realistically viable (though I agree, the Heather Graham episodes started to show promise). I would rather it ended when it did than continue on with dropping quality.
I watched the whole series a couple of years ago, and thought it held up quite well. It was fun to remember the days when everyone was befuddled by this bizarre TV show, when newspapers would have two-page spreads connecting the characters and plotlines and the actors were turning up on every talk show, usually giving a lot of answers like "I don't know what it means, ask David!"
--Justin
I watched the whole series a couple of years ago, and thought it held up quite well. It was fun to remember the days when everyone was befuddled by this bizarre TV show, when newspapers would have two-page spreads connecting the characters and plotlines and the actors were turning up on every talk show, usually giving a lot of answers like "I don't know what it means, ask David!"
--Justin
I love it, one of my all-time favorites, and I'm so tempted to do a fanfic season 3. Seriously, how can we be left with THIS cliffhanger? But, alas, I'm already up to my neck with writing commitments.
QFT
I lvoe Twin Peaks. I actually think the ending of it, along with the movie, makes for appropriate closure for the show.
I think the pilot is perhaps the best TV pilot I've ever seen. The first season was must see TV. In the second, I lost interest quickly. Never saw the movie.
From time to time I consider revisiting it all on DVD. Just haven't yet.
From time to time I consider revisiting it all on DVD. Just haven't yet.
I've been watching it lately but seem to have stalled out around episode 15 of the second season. Perhaps I should just skip to the last episode.
I was a bit disappointed with Fire Walk With Me. It just didn't have the same special feeling that the series had. I suppose that following Laura Palmer's final days is going to be a very grim film after hearing about it all on the show, but the film was very, very dark, and not much else.
QFT. The episode in which Maddie is killed/we learn the identity of the killer, and the episode with Leland's death, were the two strongest episodes, some of the best TV ever made. I thought that the latter was the perfect ending, and was at first surprised that the show didn't end. And then the show became really so painfully bad it was unwatchable. Literally, for me - I stopped watching when the main storylines were James and that woman who was supposed to be some femme fatale, those two old brothers and their bimbo, and Andrey hooking up with Billy Zane. I tried watching it all the way through when I caught a rerun a few years ago, and still I gave up.
But after I've heard all the talk about the ending, I watched the last 2 (or was it 3) episodes of the series, which are really interesting and intense and the return to the old quality. Which means that there might still be some episodes in the middle of season 2 I haven't seen, but I don't feel I've missed anything.
The cliffhanger made me think I would like to see the sequel, which I never would have thought before. But it also works as an ending - as one of the bleakest, most hopeless endings ever on TV.
I liked the film. Sheryl Lee was really good in the role, and it even made sense of her relationship with James (who wasn't as lame and unbearable in the film as he was in the series). The only thing I didn't like was that the two parts (the introduction with the agents investigating Theresa's murder, and Laura's part) don't really gel together.
I loved the show when it was on and was upset when it was cancelled, but looking back I agree that it really should have ended after Laura's murder was solved.
If you haven't seen it, the Psych tribute episide "Dual Spires" is a lot of fun with a ton of references to the show. I watched it with my kids recently, and son commented that Twin Peaks must have been incredibly weird. He has no idea.
If you haven't seen it, the Psych tribute episide "Dual Spires" is a lot of fun with a ton of references to the show. I watched it with my kids recently, and son commented that Twin Peaks must have been incredibly weird. He has no idea.
Been watching it on Netflix. I guess I was always under the impression that they never found Laura Palmer's killer.
The murder scene is one of the few truly frightening scenes ever and made a top 100 poll too. I agree that the series meandered after that. I still enjoyed it but it was a bit like the final series of B5 - it lost too much momentum and took too long to pick up again. I have no idea where they were going with Audrey Horne - she was great fun as a teen temptress but her character did a wierd u-turn.
I was a shame that Lara Flynn Boyle couldn't or wouldn't reprise her role for the movie and it did lose too much of the series' hypnotic quality. Sheryl Lee was awesome. I was disappointed that the movie deliberately kept things ambiguous (although incomprehensible might be more accurate) for a sequel that never came.
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And that's why I never watched Twin Peaks with the lights off.
I agree with everyone else, if the show had ended after resolving the Laura Palmer murder it would have been one of the best miniseries ever made, but the drop in quality after that point makes it a struggle to finish the show.
And that's why I never watched Twin Peaks with the lights off.
I agree with everyone else, if the show had ended after resolving the Laura Palmer murder it would have been one of the best miniseries ever made, but the drop in quality after that point makes it a struggle to finish the show.
Twin Peaks is my of my favorite shows. It burned very brightly for the short time it was on. Even those terrible episodes in the mid second season always had a few points of interest or something unique show up. The last few episodes are very high qaulity, and show that a third season could have proven a rebound in quality, if not popularity. I think there was room for a least one more year.
I like the film, but It doesn't feel like the show. Outside of the charming prologue sequence, the film lacks the warmth and humor of the show. The tragedy is that Lynch wanted to follow up with a sequel film showing events after the series. I wonder to this day why that one wasn't done first.
I like the film, but It doesn't feel like the show. Outside of the charming prologue sequence, the film lacks the warmth and humor of the show. The tragedy is that Lynch wanted to follow up with a sequel film showing events after the series. I wonder to this day why that one wasn't done first.
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