Twilight- poor man's Buffy?

[OmahaStar]

Isn't the point that Twilight is for teenage girls and homosexuals and Buffy was for adult men and nerds?

If that was true, Twilight should appeal to me, since I'm gay. It doesn't. I've read the book and seen the movie, so I can have an informed opinion on the matter. Twilight, pure and simple, is crap. There is not one redeeming quality about it, and it's got the worst writing I have ever read. And I've read Marshak and Culbreath.

 

[DigificWriter]

I wasn't going to glorify this insane assertion with a post, but I've changed my mind. Comparing Twilight and Buffy (which are both good in their own ways, IMO) is like comparing apples and pineapples, or apples and oranges. The only thing that the two franchises have in common is that they incorporate vampires. Twilight is a series of romance novels first and foremost, and a series of vampire novels second.

 

[OmahaStar]

Twilight is a series of crappy shit, vomit-inducing garbage that should not be read or watched by anyone.

Fixed that for ya.

 

[CorporalClegg]

As for ratings...BTVS got shuffled to UPN

That's a somewhat inaccurate interpretation of what happened.

As far as the similarities, I can't say as I've never read Twilight and never plan to.

 

[Seven of Five]

Argh! Twilight! I saw the film a couple of weeks ago and I shouldn't have seen it; it was my own fault for going. I really didn't enjoy it much, and there were definately times throughout the film when I thought that I'd seen something similar on either Buffy or Angel, and it was done with much more fun. Oh well, I was more excited about going to the cinema which we hadn't done for a while.

If I'd seen the trailer before rather than after I definately wouldn't have bothered!

 

[cardinal biggles]

As I say, cheap Vancouver settings and all

Oregon, standing in for Washington's Olympic Peninsula. They probably could have saved a few bucks by going north of the border, but I give them props for at least keeping it in the U.S.

Condensed down to a couple of sentences, you could see some similarities, but Twilight is more derivative of romance novels (particularly vampire-themed ones) than anything else.

This sums it up pretty well.

The heroines are night and day, too; Buffy fits with Joss Whedon's gallery of strong, independent, ass-kicking females. Bella Swan is practically the anti-Buffy in every way.

 

[Ethros]

I wasn't going to glorify this insane assertion with a post...

I was only asking if there were similarities, outside of the obvious

 

[Bob The Skutter]

I wasn't going to glorify this insane assertion with a post...

I was only asking if there were similarities, outside of the obvious

How dare you ask questions about things you don't know about. You should just assume and rant about it without having a clue... this is the internet we're talking about here.

 

[Ethros]

^ I know, I am strange that way

btw, though I haven't seen the film per se, I loved the last episode of South Park "The Ungroundable" parodying the vampire fad all the kids have per se, and how it conflicts with the goth kids

 

[DigificWriter]

I wasn't going to glorify this insane assertion with a post...

I was only asking if there were similarities, outside of the obvious

Sorry if I offended. As both a Twilight and Buffy fan, I'm drawn to them for completely different reasons because, as I said, they're totally different animals.

 

[Ethros]

^ None take, just clarifying

 

[KB24]

I must admit when this became a big deal and my novel didn't I was like wtf? But then I tried to read it and found every cliche from every other vampire thing. I recently started watching Buffy again and yeah, thought Twilight was a rip off. I was however curious about Stephenie Meyer, and she doesn't even like vampires. She just threw them in there.

Go fig.

 

[Ol Scratch]

I'm sorry, but anyone who writes a vampire story and claims they don't know anything about vampires or doesn't even like them is lying through their teeth. Hell, it's practically impossible in this day and age to find someone who doesn't know much about vampires from film, television, or literature.

Seems more like she's just embarrassed that her vampire fetish stories have become mainstream to me.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

"Twilight" is a vampire story with none of "Buffy's" wit or intelligence.

 

[Sci]

Twilight is an incredibly sexist piece of trash about an insecure girl who meets a dominant alpha male and decides to give up her life and her future to join him as a vampire.

Buffy is a story that advocates sexual equality and depicts a strong young woman who learns how to grow up and integrate her role as the Slayer into her larger self-construct and who along the way happens to have relationships with vampires which later end, in part because both vampires realize that they can't give her a future and that neither party should have to sacrifice unequally for them to be together.

They're completely different.

 

[Manticore]

Twilight is an incredibly sexist piece of trash about an insecure girl who meets a dominant alpha male and decides to give up her life and her future to join him as a vampire.

From the month that I worked as a temp office assistant in the book room for a magazine-and-book distributor, it seemed almost as if most romances are like that. One particularly egregious example that I can think of was about a senator's daughter who goes to work for a company undercover so she can investigate a potentially corrupt CEO...and she falls head-over-heels for him and runs off with him, at least according to the back cover.

Vampire romance (which we had a lot of as well) seemed to me to just be more of the same, and I seriously questioned why any woman would really be interested in it. My manager had no idea.

 

[Kelthaz]

Twilight is an incredibly sexist piece of trash about an insecure girl who meets a dominant alpha male and decides to give up her life and her future to join him as a vampire..

Well said.

 

[Ethros]

Buffy is a story that advocates sexual equality and depicts a strong young woman who learns how to grow up and integrate her role as the Slayer into her larger self-construct and who along the way happens to have relationships with vampires which later end, in part because both vampires realize that they can't give her a future and that neither party should have to sacrifice unequally for them to be together.

Also nicely put

 

[TheMasterOfOrion]

pot calling the kettle black?

IMO Buffy was a terrible, terrible tv show. I loved Whedon's Firefly but no matter how much I try I can't stand more than 5 mins of Buffy. its a never ending tv series about some barbie high school girl beating up vampire and witches and monsters and that stuff just doesn't flow with me
and there's this zombie like cult of personality following Whedon everywhere insisting everything he does as golden
from the few minuets I've seen of Buffy I also remember Whedon's militant feminism creeping in. The gals were these super heroes and the guys like Zander were these bumbling dweebs who went around with their balls in their wife's purse - Annie was her name?

Twilight, don't know and I don't really care. It sounds to me this movie is like the high school version of the 'Interview with the Vampire' books. Vampire movies were never my thing but I enjoyed the Interview with the Vampire movie and if this Twilight movie entertains, makes money on the big screen and quickly fades away i will probably dislike it a lot less than Buffy

 

[OmahaStar]

pot calling the kettle black?

IMO Buffy was a terrible, terrible tv show. I loved Whedon's Firefly but no matter how much I try I can't stand more than 5 mins of Buffy. its a never ending tv series about some barbie high school girl beating up vampire and witches and monsters and that stuff just doesn't flow with me
and there's this zombie like cult of personality following Whedon everywhere insisting eveything he does as golden

That's too bad. If you'd seen it, you'd know what you were talking about. Maybe you can try watching again?