That was one of the major issues with how the Time War was depicted in Doctor Who. A war between two technological superpowers battling for control of the fabric of reality should not be troops with guns shooting at each other.
Tv shows or movies that would transition well to Sci-Fi elements being added?
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Yeah... the original idea was supposed to be that the Daleks and Time Lords were both making massive changes to history to favor themselves and hurt their enemy, try to wipe out each other's victories and their own defeats, etc. Like in Enterprise's "Storm Front" when the Temporal Cold War went hot, but much more extensively. That was the rationale for all the continuity issues between the classic and modern series, and why the modern world doesn't look like the version of the early 2000s shown in the classic series.
Still, it occurs to me to remember the beginning of "Genesis of the Daleks" -- the battlefield with the strange mix of futuristic energy weapons and WWI-era artillery and poison gas, because the Thals and Kaleds had been at war for so long that they'd run out of resources for their advanced tech and had to make do with more primitive measures. Maybe something similar happened in the Time War -- there were points within it when the combatants suffered enough attrition to their advanced time-altering technologies that they were reduced to more conventional methods.
I would have liked a sci-fi element in The Cape
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115126/
My ultimate contact scenario:
The shuttle was meant as a Glomar, but the large payload bay not meant for Hexagon or Kennan (which could launch on Titan IIIs and IVs)---or to recover Almaz (a true Project Azorian type mission.)
Instead, the shuttle was to recover the charred remains of the Great Daylight Fireball:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1972_Great_Daylight_Fireball
This object was to do a resonant return to Earth in 1997--pulling a perfect Leonov-type aerobrake in real life--and its contrail/wake was as smooth and as laminar as a baby's bottom, making it of interest to SETA
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenoarchaeology#Probe_SETI,_or_SETA
Here, the new season of THE CAPE begins with historical footage of US19720810 being discovered using old Blink Comparators.
I would have it that this probe came from the direction of the WOW signal--and end on an ominous note---that the Roswell craft was a lifting body sent out ahead of a RAMA like 'Oumuamua sleeper ship that had been using telepathy to cause our species to develop an interest in spaceflight--and only a Project Orion pulsecraft could reach and rescue them now.
Telepathy would be the only Sci-fi element, apart from changing the facts a little.
Everything else would be plausible.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115126/
My ultimate contact scenario:
The shuttle was meant as a Glomar, but the large payload bay not meant for Hexagon or Kennan (which could launch on Titan IIIs and IVs)---or to recover Almaz (a true Project Azorian type mission.)
Instead, the shuttle was to recover the charred remains of the Great Daylight Fireball:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1972_Great_Daylight_Fireball
This object was to do a resonant return to Earth in 1997--pulling a perfect Leonov-type aerobrake in real life--and its contrail/wake was as smooth and as laminar as a baby's bottom, making it of interest to SETA
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenoarchaeology#Probe_SETI,_or_SETA
Here, the new season of THE CAPE begins with historical footage of US19720810 being discovered using old Blink Comparators.
I would have it that this probe came from the direction of the WOW signal--and end on an ominous note---that the Roswell craft was a lifting body sent out ahead of a RAMA like 'Oumuamua sleeper ship that had been using telepathy to cause our species to develop an interest in spaceflight--and only a Project Orion pulsecraft could reach and rescue them now.
Telepathy would be the only Sci-fi element, apart from changing the facts a little.
Everything else would be plausible.
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I've been making my way through Murdoch Mysteries season 12, and there's a standalone Halloween episode about an alien invasion, making it full-on sci-fi. In this one, aliens invade and start taking control of people, and the symptoms people start showing are them behaving at complete opposites as to how they normally behave.
https://murdochmysteries.fandom.com/wiki/Sir._Sir?_Sir!!!
The nice thing about this show is that while it is primarily a mystery show, it isn't afraid of going beyond its genre from time to time, experimenting with sci-fi and horror and playing around with the zeitgeist of the era. They've had a Christmas episode featuring a murderous krampus-like monster for instance.
https://murdochmysteries.fandom.com/wiki/Sir._Sir?_Sir!!!
The nice thing about this show is that while it is primarily a mystery show, it isn't afraid of going beyond its genre from time to time, experimenting with sci-fi and horror and playing around with the zeitgeist of the era. They've had a Christmas episode featuring a murderous krampus-like monster for instance.
Oh, I would pay so much money to see this happen! It's right up there with my burning desire for Paddy's Pub to get a visit from the Bar Rescue guys.
That's because Crichton is considered a fiction writer.
Depends on the bookstore. When I worked at Bookmans in Mesa, AZ, Crichton was considered a sci-fi writer. All of his books ended up in the sci-fi section, even Rising Sun, which is a straight-up mystery novel.
OWWWW! The pun hurts my brain!
I never heard about that. What happened?
And both of those episodes end with everyone dying except for Matthew & Bill.
Reminds me of the Buffy the Vampire Slayer episode "The Wish," where Cordelia creates an alternate universe where Buffy never came to Sunnydale. Apparently, that universe has some kind of lasting existence since Anya was inadvertently able to bring alternate vampire Willow into our reality.
Turns out that Dom & the gang were the Moon pirates that we saw in Ad Astra.
As for other franchises that might go to space, my vote is for Pitch Perfect. "In space, no one can hear you sing."
Since nearly every cast member from Community has appeared in a Marvel movie, I like to think that this is part of some larger plan that Pierce put in place before he died. But what does this have to do with LeVar Burton?
The ITV Victoria series is clearly a Doctor Who spin-off. It turns out that Queen Victoria was a Clara splinter all along.
Most Westerns could transition to scifi very easily. Star Wars proves it.
I don't remember the details, but Booth and Bones investigated what appeared to a normal case, with the help of Ichabod and "Leftenant" Mills, and then the four ended up working together in Sleepy Hollow, where Ichabod and Abby dealt with the supernatural shenanigans, while Bones and Brennan were kept away from all of that.
Was it a crossover that appeared on both shows? (After all, for as much as people want to make of Homicide & The X-Files being in the same universe, it was only ever one-way, with Detective Munch interrogating the Lone Gunmen in an X-Files episode but no X-Files characters ever appearing on Homicide.)
Yes, it was a pair of back-to-back episodes on the same night, first a Bones episode guest-starring the Sleepy Hollow leads, then a Sleepy Hollow episode guest-starring the Bones leads and picking up a thread set up in the first hour.
Or that alternate timeline existed all along and Anya just brought Cordelia into it.
Actually, X-Files had already been established as a fictional TV show within the Homicide/L&O universe.
So Munch's appearance on X-Files is easily explainable. Munch simply exists in both universes - one where X-Files is fiction, one where it's real. Nothing more complicated than that.
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Or that alternate timeline existed all along and Anya just brought Cordelia into it.
Also a possibility, although the Buffyverse generally depicts that kind of thing as reality being overwritten, rather than a parallel timeline. SEE "Birthday," where Skip creates an alternate reality where Cordelia is a famous sitcom star and Angel has gone insane from having Doyle's visions passed onto him. When she ripped the wallpaper off of a room in the Hyperion Hotel, she could still see a message that was written there in the original reality. (Meanwhile, the people overwriting reality seem to have no problem removing & reattaching Wesley's arm when switching from one version to another.)
Either way, using the Buffyverse model, the Pottersville scenes from It's a Wonderful Life would seem to be reality, whether a parallel reality or a temporarily transformed version of the regular reality. (Perhaps Clarence is just a more well-meaning Vengeance Demon?
) On the other hand, maybe it is all a dream. After all, when they're in Pottersville, George's mouth stops bleeding and he's able to hear out of his formerly deaf ear, but his mouth starts bleeding again once he's returned to Bedford Falls. If it is a dream, where does it start? Does it start when George makes the wish in the tollhouse and then he's somehow transported back to the bridge by the end? Or does it start from the moment when Clarence first shows up? It would be interesting to see if the Tollhouse Keeper remembers George or Clarence.
Add "Six Million Dollar Man"[ to the list; at least four episodes with aliens, five episodes with Big Foot, one or two with ESP, mind control ... the show started going off the rails about mid season three.
Huh? The question is about what non-SF shows would lend themselves to SF elements being added. The Six Million Dollar Man was always SF; the things you mention are just taking the SF in a more fanciful direction than just bionics.
Also, they introduced ESP as early as the third hourlong episode of season 1, and aliens by episode 6 of season 2 (written by D.C. Fontana).
What do you mean" huh?" People have been also bringing up titles of old TV series that suddenly had SF/F elements in it when it wasn't like that before. For two, maybe three pages. Yeah, off topic, but it's not like I just plopped down something new here.
Are you conflating some that is possible and has been done to varying degrees, albeit not where near the level back then, with ALIENS???
Why are people liking such a comment!
Those are both science fiction, though. Some science fiction takes existing technology and projects it forward, other science fiction explores more extreme hypotheticals. You can't draw a line and say that one is SF and the other isn't.
And again, The Six Million Dollar Man crossed that line of credibility very early in its first season, as soon as it did an episode about a psychic. That's far more fanciful than aliens.