TV Ratings (Tuesday 9th November) + My Axe List
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Nikita is struggling because it doesn't get the female 18-34 demo in numbers that The CW wants especially with TVD as lead in.
OTH has to end sometime and its too old to gain an audience its going to keep slipping and its already under 2 million.
The reason for 3 Toss Up's is because while CW can't cancel everything, they are not safe and it comes down too what pilots CW are impressed with enough to cancel at 1 of those 3 toss ups. I don't see them keeping 90120, Hellcats and GG. All 3 soon will be under 2 million and 1.0 on the demo on a regular basis soon (My money is on 90120, which has been a total failure).
I also watch (and love) the show.
You know, I don't talk about this show much, but of all the ones that you've listed under "Down Comes The AXE", it's probably the one I'll actually miss the most. I guess I'm too easy, because I just find it damned entertaining. The Dan Stark character is a hoot.
But alas nobody else like it.
Yeah it's silly, but it's fun to watch. Guess we need to enjoy it while we can.
^ You will not want to see the latest ratings for it when I posted up Wednesday numbers later 
My earlier idea of it moving to friday is probably no longer an option and it could be cancelled before 2010 ends. CBS could move to low demo rated Good Wife to fridays since they aren't happy with it but probably figure its perfect for the older skewing night. Could The Good Wife air at 8pm ? fridays because I don't see CSI NY or Blue Bloods working at that time.
My earlier idea of it moving to friday is probably no longer an option and it could be cancelled before 2010 ends. CBS could move to low demo rated Good Wife to fridays since they aren't happy with it but probably figure its perfect for the older skewing night. Could The Good Wife air at 8pm ? fridays because I don't see CSI NY or Blue Bloods working at that time.
They can cancel The Event for all I care. Awful show. NBC should have kept Heroes. 
^ You will not want to see the latest ratings for it when I posted up Wednesday numbers later
Just saw them. Ouch. I thought they had ordered a full season of this show?
^ You will not want to see the latest ratings for it when I posted up Wednesday numbers later
Just saw them. Ouch. I thought they had ordered a full season of this show?
Yep though CBS could cut it short I guess or maybe they have nothing in mind to replace it with this season either way it won't get a 2nd season. I heard a rumor it could move to Friday nights to replace Medium but then remarks about Good Wife being in trouble due to the demo made it look like Good Wife could move to fridays instead.
Personally CBS execs should lighten up over TGW demo problems since it can pull in over 12 million viewers at 10pm and cancel The Defenders now because its not going to work out.
CBS ordered full seasons for every one of their new shows. Doesn't mean they actually have to follow through on it though.
What are you smoking (and the original poster). The Amazing Race season to date average is a 3.4 in adults 18-49, with 10.9 million average viewers. IT builds from its lead in in adults 18-49 typically over 50% (usually close to 100% on weeks without football) and usually 15% with Football.
Football doesn't hurt TAR, at all. In fact football pushes Sundays numbers (except for the 10pm show) up.
This is TAR 17th season, and though most shows see declines each year in viewers and demo, this cycle of TAR is the 4th most watched (at this same point in time) and though its demos are worse then when it aired on during the week (seasons 1-9) as its lead in 60 minutes has the oldest age viewer of any show on the air. Since moving to Sunday (season 10) this is the third strongest performance in adults 18-49. Hell this is the first year its ever gotten a stronger adult 18-49 performance then Survivor. Its average demo performance is better then all but BBT, 2 & 1/2 men, Criminal Minds, Survivor, NCIS, and UB (and that one is just barely and might pass it before the year is up).
That really doesn't make that much difference.
THe network gets very detailed reports on the performance and understands that OR can hurt the East Coast and Central time zones performance in the 10 pm hour. But they have the full detail from the Pacific coast to judge week to week performance. Plus they do have the majority of weeks that actually don't have an overrun (which hit more in the Fall then in the Spring).
The network just doesn't look at the season average. They look at all the data and they get a lot of it.
Cold Case was already seriously dropped (trends the networks don't like) it already had amassed a sizable catalog for cable and overseas sales, and it already had a fairly old audience. It was going to go.
Cold Case ratings were very stable and then it suffered weeks of overrun, people loss the show and when it did settle down back in a normal slot the ratings never recovered to what they were mere months before. CSI:Miami is already a toss up according to many other people and before this move, CSI: Miami was one of the strongest CBS shows because of the demo it could produce at 10pm.
Cold Case was cancelled along with Without a Trace because of rising salary costs... or so CBS said.
WAT was cancelled due to the 18-49 demo despite the fact it scored around 11-12 million (watch out The Good Wife). Cold Case was cancelled because the ratings went down by over 2.5 million for a large portion of its final season after the move from 9pm to 10pm. CBS wanted Three Rivers to replace Cold Case in its former 9pm slot but that tanked as well so moved CSI Miami hoping an established scripted show would work...Well you should of put it on a 9pm then not 10pm.
I guess I was smoking what I read on another site about the ratings being down. No need to get defensive. That's good to hear that TAR has been doing well in the ratings. It's not like the show is going anywhere. I also assumed ratings were going down given the amount of complaining about the show being delayed every week because of Football.
You know I wonder sometimes if it wouldn't be better if ratings were kept from the public. (And Jax I'm not talking about you or your threads specifically, I'm talking in general). The reason I say that, if the public believes a show is not going to last then they're less likely to give it a chance and it kind of becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.
Just like we're talking about The Defenders here. If there was anybody on the fence about the show, or thought about trying it out in the future, and they found out it's likely gone, no later than the end of the TV season, if not sooner, what would be their motivation for checking it out?
In other words, if you hear a show is in trouble, aren't you more likely to bail on it, or not give it a chance in the first place?
Just like we're talking about The Defenders here. If there was anybody on the fence about the show, or thought about trying it out in the future, and they found out it's likely gone, no later than the end of the TV season, if not sooner, what would be their motivation for checking it out?
In other words, if you hear a show is in trouble, aren't you more likely to bail on it, or not give it a chance in the first place?