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Trying to make sense of the timeline

Will edit my last post later. Tablet keyboard rendered it into gobbledegook a bit didn't it
 
STO at very least tips it's hat to the older cross media continuity, and definitely acknowledges it....given the timely shenanigans at the moment, it's not impossible it may end up totally in line with the novels or as near as, as it was at its inception. (We still haven't seen an iconian in game by the way....as as they are now explicitly linked to the preservers, a more human appearance is likely)
We did see an Iconian in "Surface Tension". Completely different from their description in the DS9 Gateways conclusion "Horn and Ivory".

http://sto.gamepedia.com/Iconian
 
There are major differences before Destiny, though. STO's timeline pretty much disregards the DS9 Relaunch, or has its events (like Ro's pardon or Bajor's Federation membership) take place years or decades later. There are also fundamental differences in the portrayal of species like the Iconians and Species 8472. Those aren't things that would've changed in 2381, they're things that would've been different since those species first evolved millions of years ago.

But those are differences that come later, on th part of both novels and STO. STO as it was about....4 years ago was much much closer to the novel continuity. And the novel continuity was also much closer to STO....little q hadn't done his messiah shtick yet, data was still dead, so STOs short story collection was the only licensed source dealing with his resurrection in time for the countdown comics.
A few dates were different, but novel continuity characters hand around STOs starbases to this day.

No, that is not true. It's a myth that's cropped up in recent years, but it's misremembering history. The original "Path to 2409" website that went live before STO began had clear contradictions with the pre-existing DS9 novels' continuity, among other things. Those conflicts were present from the beginning, intentionally so. Yes, STO borrowed some elements from the novels and other sources to suit its needs, but it simultaneously contradicted others. It was never consistent with the novels, not even from the start. It was never meant to be. It created its own universe, but it cherrypicked bits and pieces from elsewhere to flesh it out, when they didn't conflict with existing plans for the game.

This is what different adaptations of a work have always done. They borrow elements from each other while still remaining clearly distinct continuities. The '40s Superman radio series borrowed the Daily Planet from the newspaper comic strip, but contradicted that strip by having its editor be Perry White instead of George Taylor, and by having Superman operate in secret (in the pre-WWII years) rather than overtly. Later, the comic books (and everything else) borrowed Perry and Jimmy Olsen from the radio series, but also portrayed Superman as acting openly in contradiction to the radio series, and made Jimmy a redhead rather than blond as he was on radio (though radio Jimmy eventually became a redhead as well). Later on, the Batman comics added Harley Quinn and Renee Montoya from the '90s animated series, but their continuity differed from the show's continuity in many ways, and the characters were portrayed differently. And so on.


The comics did that awful hive thing to distinguish their line.
IDW has no single continuity unifying its comics. Most of its miniseries are self-contained, separate, and occasionally contradictory, except for all the various John Byrne titles sharing a continuity (and of course the Abramsverse comics). There are even a few individual IDW titles that are set in the novel continuity, such as the one-shots written by Keith DeCandido, while there are many more that conflict with the novels.
 
I can think of one piece of circumstantial evidence: Q never showing up in the alternate-future timeline of Millennium, when you'd think "the One" getting involved in a completely separate end-of-the-universe scenario would be worth giving some omnipotent help with.

Then again, the local Q (if there is a Q in each branch of the multiverse) might've known that everything would turn out all right so he didn't think he needed to bother. And I've talked before about how Millennium doesn't really fit with the current Treklit universe anyway. :p
 
STOs short story collection

I'm not aware of this. What is it?

http://www.amazon.com/Star-Trek-Online-Needs-Many/dp/143918657X

Interesting set of stories that fills in some of STO backstory, though some has been retconned away by now, as has sone of the original path to 2409, some of the missions (one of which didn't feel in the spirit of trek and has now been outright referred to as being what amounts to a cheese dream made by q just to fudge with a Starfleet admiral)

The STO continuity also regularly has short stories in the official star trek magazine.

Its odd, that continuity wise, star trek is now in a similar place to doctor who in the early two-thousands. There's an established literature continuity of sorts, and a new licensed continuity using established actors.
These thongs can sometimes go a bit sour in fandoms, but I like seeing where they try to dovetail rather than contradict.

And didn't realise surface tension had an actual iconian, I thought we had only seen heralds. Mind you. Wonder what's under the suit.
 
Ok I just never heard that book referred to as short stories. I've never read it or played the game. Is it really a short story anthology, or just one book?
 
It's really Jake going round doing interviews as a wrapper story, with individual tales that aren't necessarily directly related throughout, from memory.
 
I haven't read The Needs of the Many either, but I believe it was compared to World War Z when it first came out.
 
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