TRUE DETECTIVE--CARCOSA

[publiusr]

Now to keep folks from getting too scared, skeptics have debunked a lot of theories about satanic ritual abuse: http://www.skeptictank.org/sra.htm

Then too, that very debunking may also have given cover to the real thing, in that most professionals may disregard any claims.

 

[Mojochi]

It's the best thing on TV, and I am delighted it's intended to be an anthology with a different cast each season.

Wow. I just spent two nights watching the whole thing. This is EXCATLY why I gave up on AMC's The Killing. What crap compared to this. You can tune into a stupid crime story show every hour of the day. If you plan to spend an entire season on one case, then it absolutely must be about story of the people investigating it. This is about men who have no other worthwhile identity than to finish this life consuming case. THAT'S compelling.

I don't know how they could top that in another season, even with a new cast (Who'd have to be equally as talented & compelling). They clearly can't have any repeats of the form, without it feeling like a rehash. So that leaves out a lot of the design that made this so wonderful

 

[ManOnTheWave]

I really don't know how they could top (or even equal) the first season, but this one season was great. It's a mini-series. Beginning, middle, end, done. Even if next season is eight solid hours of cliched nonsense, this season was well worth watching.

 

[Trekker4747]

BRAINS!!!!

Alright, alright, alright....

I've heard a lot about this show the past year or whatever so I bought the DVD set to give a whirl. (It's not available on Netflix streaming, so it's the only way to really watch it without doing torrents or something.)

I've only watched the first episode, I plan on trying to watch this slowly instead of binge-watching it, and found it to be quite great and engaging. With McConaughey and Harrleson as the lead cast I knew it was a safe bet to dive into and I was not mistaken. The first episode was really engaging and I look forward to how the rest of the season plays out.

 

[Trekker4747]

As said above, I've been taking the series slowly, finished the fourth episode the other night. Still really, really, enjoying this and just utterly amazed at Matt's performance in this series.

Man, if he doesn't win that Emmy....

Anway, the most recent episode had Cohle taking a "leave from work" (really going "undercover" with a biker/drug gang to get more information on the case.) Very good episode and the final scene(s) with him on the drug-run with the bikers and trying to get the lead biker back to Mary in safety was an interesting scene. But it also felt surreal. Everything that happens in it with the helicopter, the escalating violence, the nearly endless swarm of bad guys running around shooting, cops driving around, trying to move around an area with someone else in tow trying to not get either one of you hurt.

It felt less like a real-life situation and more like a GTA mission.

 

[Dream]

What? No comment on naked Alexandra Daddario?

 

[Trekker4747]

What? No comment on naked Alexandra Daddario?

Oh, I could make plenty of comments on it.

But I believe I will postpone at this time.

 

[J.T.B.]

Very good episode and the final scene(s) with him on the drug-run with the bikers and trying to get the lead biker back to Mary in safety was an interesting scene. But it also felt surreal. Everything that happens in it with the helicopter, the escalating violence, the nearly endless swarm of bad guys running around shooting, cops driving around, trying to move around an area with someone else in tow trying to not get either one of you hurt.

It felt less like a real-life situation and more like a GTA mission.

From the time he enters the gang house to Woody picking him up in the car it was all a single shot; no edits in five or six minutes of almost constant motion. Very intense but also quite different from most action scenes we see on TV, that may have contributed to the surreal feeling.

 

[Trekker4747]

You know, shorter cable seasons have their benefits and pluses but 8 is just too damn short.

 

[Locutus of Bored]

Very good episode and the final scene(s) with him on the drug-run with the bikers and trying to get the lead biker back to Mary in safety was an interesting scene. But it also felt surreal. Everything that happens in it with the helicopter, the escalating violence, the nearly endless swarm of bad guys running around shooting, cops driving around, trying to move around an area with someone else in tow trying to not get either one of you hurt.

It felt less like a real-life situation and more like a GTA mission.

From the time he enters the gang house to Woody picking him up in the car it was all a single shot; no edits in five or six minutes of almost constant motion. Very intense but also quite different from most action scenes we see on TV, that may have contributed to the surreal feeling.

It was an amazing sequence to watch. It took a while to notice what it was about the scene that was so disconcerting, realistic, and in the moment, but then when I noticed the lack of cuts I was in awe. Best use of the technique since the uncut action sequences in Children of Men. War of the Worlds has a similar scene when they're first escaping New Jersey in their minivan, but the daughter screaming the whole time distracts you from what's going on with the camera work.

 

[Trekker4747]

Well, McConaughey was robbed last night to give Cranston his umpteenth Emmy. I've not seen Breaking Bad but I find it hard to believe that his performance in whatever episode he submitted is better than McConaughey's performance in his entry. But I've always had a problem with the "submit an episode" thing as opposed to submitting more of a body of work. Because, again, I really find McConaughey's performance in TD to be remarkable.

 

[Locutus of Bored]

Breaking Bad had a fantastic final season, so even with Cranston being recognized before, it doesn't mean he's not worthy of receiving it for the final season too, especially if they submitted Ozymandias, which IMO was better than the finale.

I'd put his performance up there with McConaughey's, though that was amazing too.

 

[Garak]

I think Kevin Spacey was the one who was robbed.

 

[Trekker4747]

Well, finished it.

Very good show.

I'm not *entirely* sure it all made sense or all of the "questions" were answered throughout it but I suspect that the case wasn't the point through all of this. Like, I'm not entirely clear on why the church foundation was so hot to take-over the case and cover things up. Seems like there was supposed to be a larger conspiracy here that we never really dived into.

But Harrelson and McConaughey both did really good jobs in their roles. I think it could have been maybe stretched out a couple more episodes to better cover and show the re-bonding between Marty and Rust in the "present." The interaction between present-day Cole and Rust was pretty good stuff.

Seems like some missed opportunities there. I'm fine with short seasons but it seems like the events of the last 2 episodes could have been stretched into 4 without straining or padding things too much.

 

[J.T.B.]

I'm fine with short seasons but it seems like the events of the last 2 episodes could have been stretched into 4 without straining or padding things too much.

Yeah, I did think that once they moved to "present day" the show sped up quite a bit. It seemed like the two resolved their differences and started clicking really quickly, compared to the more languid pace of the first six eps. I wouldn't have minded another couple, either.

 

[yenny]

Is the series the same as the Magazine, like base off of it, or is it different?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True_Detective_(magazine)

 

[Trekker4747]

I'm fine with short seasons but it seems like the events of the last 2 episodes could have been stretched into 4 without straining or padding things too much.

Yeah, I did think that once they moved to "present day" the show sped up quite a bit. It seemed like the two resolved their differences and started clicking really quickly, compared to the more languid pace of the first six eps. I wouldn't have minded another couple, either.

Yeah, Marty got over the whole, "You fucked the brains out of my wife and she loved it!" thing pretty quick. (Well, okay, there were 10 years or so intervening there but, still once back with Rust he seemed pretty chill about everything.) Pretty much after a couple beers they pick up where they left off and start working together again and became bestest pals.

Just really seems like a lot could have been covered in the present-day on them wrapping up this investigation and the involvement of the two new cops. Hell, I'd say Marty and Rust meeting up on the side of the road could have been the half-way point and another six episodes could have been done. (Giving the season a 12-episode run, pretty common for a cable series.)

Just as I said, a LOT happened in those last two episodes and I'm not sure they rebuilt their friendship very well and I'm still not 100% clear on what exactly was happening with this killer and his connection to this religious foundation.

Very good series, though, lots of great acting moments by McConaughey, especially when he breaks down at the very end there and begins to cry actually seeming to act like a real human being in front of Marty for the first time ever (that we've seen.)

Depending on who's in Season 2 I may check it out as well when it's released to DVD. (Since I don't have HBO.)