Trek's most ridiculous contentions...
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Well, you have to give that to the Federation and everybody in Star Trek as a whole: they remain steadfastly technophobic and anachronistic, insisting on keeping their heads in the sand and complaining about not seeing the guy who comes up behind them and kicks them in the ass, completely unable to fathom how their rickety-old prejudices have left them paralyzed and as mentally adept as a rock. A bunch of fearful yes-men, the lot of them.
Which brings me to what I found incredible about Star Trek: that indeed everybody in Star Trek is like this. They really need to come across a polity that's not like this. Even one would be enough to smack them out of their complacent drudgery.
How about this one from Voyager:
The notion that you travel 15,000 light years ("Dark Frontier"), and conveniently encounter the same species you found before that massive jump (the Malon).
The notion that you travel 15,000 light years ("Dark Frontier"), and conveniently encounter the same species you found before that massive jump (the Malon).
That would be season 5's "Violations." I had always thought the intention of that scene was that the villain, Jev, was twisting Troi's memory of the event somehow. The most obvious way he did this was by taking Riker's place, but I have a hard time believing that was the only thing he changed about the memory-- mainly because I don't think the episode was trying to claim that Riker had raped Troi.
Unfortunately, feminism did not reign supreme in TOS. GR had many noble ideals but he did not seem to have a true respect for women, and it shows in the first series.
As for Riker "raping" Troi in Violations, I am of the opinion that the memory had been altered by the alien telepath.
Hell, why not? We conveniently ran into humans (37's), a ship full of Klingons, Chakotay's tribe's alien friends, and the earth dinos who blasted off into space.
You may have interpreted the scene and writers' intent incorrectly.
Troi's trauma in "Violations" is derived from an original unaltered memory that was quite pleasant—one in which Riker and Troi shared a moment of personal affection and intimacy that originally ended with her decision, for whatever reason, not to proceed. It was only when Jev began to replace Riker in the scenario that the "memory" took an at first sinister and then terrifying turn: Her assailant used it as a springboard into his own monstrous fantasy.
Since the Ullians had records of the period in which "mind rape" was common, one must assume they were able to restore the proper course of the various victims' memories—which allowed Troi to once again view her Imzadi as she always had.
[Sorry. A number of others had already addressed this. Didn't mean to pile on you.]
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Well, look the the first two or three seasons of TNG and you'll find some damn cool looking aliens including a reptilian species (The Selay, I think). It was afterwards they slashed the makeup budget.
Well, look the the first two or three seasons of TNG and you'll find some damn cool looking aliens including a reptilian species (The Selay, I think). It was afterwards they slashed the makeup budget.
Um, the Xindi had five distinct species including reptiles.
And if you look at ENT episode IaMD there is a really cool Gorn.
Maybe one of the reasons that Trek does not appeal to the majority of the population is that it has not grown. It is soooooo rooted in the 1960's.
Trek needs......
1. better visuals. Lets see some graphic violence. Some blood from time to time.
2. Starfleet needs to be more of a military organization. Starfleet works to maintain peace through strength. It needs to be a group that is not afraid to ruffle a few feathers from time to time.
3. Some nudity, profanity, and a "popular" soundtrack.
I believe that incorporating these elements will turn Trek into something that all will agree is fitting for the society that we are all living in today.
Trek needs......
1. better visuals. Lets see some graphic violence. Some blood from time to time.
2. Starfleet needs to be more of a military organization. Starfleet works to maintain peace through strength. It needs to be a group that is not afraid to ruffle a few feathers from time to time.
3. Some nudity, profanity, and a "popular" soundtrack.
I believe that incorporating these elements will turn Trek into something that all will agree is fitting for the society that we are all living in today.
You don't need to repeat your points in non-relevant threads.
I'm not familiar with the Malon's tech levels per se, but I don't think that's too much of a stretch, seeing as how the Federation is 8,000 light years across and humanity seems to be in every Fed nook and cranny. If the Malon are sufficiently advanced and/or unhampered by local politics and/or have been warp-capable for longer amount of time, I can see it happening.
Just to let you know that omhguy is now banned.
Yes, unless when Picard went to the Morgue, his friend really did come back from the dead.
Bless you, Sulu, er, Stolen...
Land isn't scarce now, so how will it "always" be? And the follow-up? Unless you're all-knowing, I don't know what to make of it except to dismiss it out of hand.
There are homeless people, so by definition, land must be scarce.
I'm not all-knowing, of course. But I know enough to recognize that communism is dead.
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