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Hey! I take some umbrage in the characterization of a ukulele as a silly instrument. My favorite artist regularly uses the ukulele (and accordion, and kazoo, and Gameboy and recorder) in his music, and very little of his stuff is jokey nonsense.

[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrykKFL20Y0[/yt]

(NOT an entry to this thread, just a song where I feel the ukulele works well in the riff)
 

1. Zeromancer - "Doctor Online"

Well, that was a weird video. Otherwise, that clicked really well with me. I like. A bit of a :lol: at the voiceover part. 9/10

2.Type O Negative - My Girlfriend's Girlfriend
Honestly, I would quite happily listen to the instrumental of this song. It's a good backing track. Unfortunately, the lead singer's voice ruined it for me. He's just far too deep. I'm not sure whether that's part of the appeal of the band, but that takes the enjoyment out of it for me. It also felt like it needed to come together. 4/10

3. Transylvanian Concubine - Rasputina
I would never have imagined ever, ever, that a band/singer? could be called this. Oh wait, the song's called TC? Ok. The video had it the wrong way round. Anyway. The song reminds me of...vampires... :rofl:. It's quite nice to hear a female vocal, sorry, I'm biased, but yeh. It was quite nice to listen to. 7/10

My songs:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fTtyrHlusA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI62NlMa5V0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2xThOiuMaU
 
Jesus, PKTrekGirl, relax. You could have just let someone else review my songs if it upset you so much instead of somehow making me look like a dick. It should be self-evident that it's not a pro Hitler song. :rolleyes:
I do believe it's important to talk about the Third Reich, also creatively, so that we can understand why it happened (and be more wary in the future) and empathise with the victims.
However, the song is about the ubiquity of Hitler in the media, mostly for the ratings and not for educational purposes.

But whatever, I'm out of here.

By the way, you also missed the point why Paul played 'something' and not a Wings song. It was meant as a tribute to George.

1. If you want people to say only good things about the songs you post, you've come to the wrong thread. I don't see you as a 'dick'. But now, after the above diatribe, I see you as WAY overly sensitive in this instance. The songs I post have been ripped to shreds too. But who cares? I know that I certainly don't. I don't see it as a reflection on me personally or anything. It's merely ONE person's opinion about a bloomin' YouTube video, 'fer cryin' out loud. That's IT, and that's ALL. I mean, let's get some frakkin' perspective here, 'mkay?

Fact: I don't like songs about Hitler. Sorry, but I don't think it's a subject appropriate for music. So sue me.

Now, I'm all about 'dialog' on the topic or whatever. But I'm sorry - nothing you can say will convince me that anyone should be wasting their creative energies on that particular individual. You can certainly believe otherwise if you like - that is your right. But I have a right to my opinion also. Which means about as much as yours; that being, 'Opinions are like bellybuttons - everybody had one, and they are all pretty pointless'. However, I certainly don't think you are a 'dick' for believing differently than me - in fact, I alluded very clearly to the fact that *I* was the one that was perhaps incapable of objectivity on this issue. So I'm just not getting why you are so upset. :confused:

As to why I reviewed your songs - well, simply put, it SEEMED LIKE MY TURN. Nothing more. I'd not participated in a few days, so I decided to participate. I was not aware of any rule allowing individuals to participate in threads around here, only if they say good things. Guess I missed that rule change. As I guess I missed the purpose of this thread completely, if you are correct. As, apparently, did Jetfire, who immediately reviewed MY songs and was not too thrilled about any of them. :lol:

Jetfire - looks like you didn't love to bits any of my songs. Please don't review them if you don't love them as your negative reviews make me look like I have bad taste in music. :p

Now, doesn't that last paragraph seem silly as hell, Count Zero? It certainly does to me. Because Jetfire is more than entitled to think that every single song I post in this thread sucks. As it stands, I'm fairly certain she thinks my taste in music is very limited. But I don't care. I am what I am. And I'm just trying to have a little frakkin' fun here - and discover some 'new to me' bands. Some of which I'll love - some not.

But it never even occurred to me to make personal judgments about the people posting songs, based on what they post. It's a SONG. Not a PERSONAL DECLARATION OF FRAKKIN' TRUTH or anything. :lol: Good grief. :p

2. The Paul McCartney/George Harrison thing was NOT, in fact, lost on me. In fact, my guess is that if you hadn't been so upset at me by that point, you'd have seen that it was NOT lost on me.

What was apparently lost on you, however, is the fact that I thought it was a pretty lame 'tribute'. However, I want to clarify here that my believing this is NOT a reflection on you for posting it. If anything I guess it's a 'reflection' on Paul McCartney (not that he gives a rat's ass what I think - nor should he!). I just don't think turning one of the Beatles best songs into a silly ukulele tune is a very good 'tribute'.

But that's just me...and neither Paul nor you should give a rat's ass that I think so. Because certainly, Paul McCartney knows a hell of a lot better than I do what George Harrison would like. Wouldn't you agree? :lol: So good on Paul. Doesn't mean I have to like it personally though.

Or are you of the opinion that we HAVE to like it because Paul did it as a tribute to George? Maybe that is where we are having the disconnect. Me personally? I don't believe being a Beatle makes you a god. So I believe I can say whatever I like about Paul and his 'tribute', even if it's negative. But I ALSO believe that Paul McCartney would have to be a fucking idiot to lose one nanosecond of sleep over what some yahoo who calls herself PKTrekGirl posted about his tribute on a Star Trek message board. And while Paul McCartney is many things, an idiot certainly isn't one of them.

Now, hows about we just chillax and not get so worked up about this stuff? These are songs on frakkin' YouTube. That's all. No lives will be lost here.
 
It's true all of PKTrekGirl's song choices suck. :p

:lol:

I will be honest if I go back and look at songs of hers I didn't review I am sure there is something I liked. ;)
 
Hey! I take some umbrage in the characterization of a ukulele as a silly instrument. My favorite artist regularly uses the ukulele (and accordion, and kazoo, and Gameboy and recorder) in his music, and very little of his stuff is jokey nonsense.



(NOT an entry to this thread, just a song where I feel the ukulele works well in the riff)

Well, I don't think the ukulele is a silly instrument. I just think that the way Paul McCartney made 'Something' sound using the ukulele was silly. To me, it reminded me of Tiny Tim. But then, what do I know? :lol:

Actually, Pearl Jam, which as you have probably figured out is one of my favorite bands, has a ukulele song on one of their studio albums. It's a song called Soon Forget and it's a pretty good song. However, I will also state that about 50% of the time in live performance, Eddie Vedder fucks it up. Which is actually the BEST PART of the whole thing, because while you never know what is going to come out of Eddie Vedder's mouth after he fucks up a song, you can be assured that whatever it is will surely be entertaining. :p

I'm okay with the ukulele. But it is, IMO, an instrument that is all about context.
 
It's true all of PKTrekGirl's song choices suck. :p

:lol:

I will be honest if I go back and look at songs of hers I didn't review I am sure there is something I liked. ;)

:guffaw::guffaw::guffaw:

Okay! So my taste in music blows. :lol: Reason enough for Count Zero to discount my obviously ill-informed 'opinion' completely and come back to the frakkin' thread and post all kinds of wonderful music that I'll just hate.

That's what I would do in his spot. :evil: If he tries hard enough, he can probably make my head explode. :lol:
 
I was looking back and I believe you posted Soul Asylum & Pantera...Love Soul Asylum and Pantera RAWKS! PK. :)
 
I was looking back and I believe you posted Soul Asylum & Pantera...Love Soul Asylum and Pantera RAWKS! PK. :)


Okay! So that's TWO songs out of what? 50 or something I've posted? :lol:

I mean, even a chimp randomly selecting videos on YouTube could come up with a better ratio than THAT. :lol:

Maybe I could get one of my Yorkies to walk across my keyboard while I'm on YouTube and 'select' the videos for me? Who knows? Using that methodology, you might get lucky and I'd actually post something that didn't make you roll your eyes and think to yourself "Oh JESUS! Not another fucking GRUNGE band!" :scream:

:lol:
 
I am sure there are plenty here who appreciate your musical tastes. :) I have posted alot of stuff people didn't like also. :rommie:
 
I am sure there are plenty here who appreciate your musical tastes. :) I have posted alot of stuff people didn't like also. :rommie:


Yeah, some of it I didn't really care for. ;)

But in truth, that only made me ADMIRE your broad taste in music and recognize that perhaps I need to work on broadening my own.

My take-away from more than one of your posts was not "What the hell is WRONG with her? Her music sucks!" In fact, quite the contrary. It was more like "What the hell is WRONG with me? I need to open myself up more to other forms of art!"

Because that is what music is. Art. And as someone who is a huge museum buff and appreciates all kinds of visual art, it annoys the crap out of me that, when you have held up the 'mirror' for me - the 'mirror' being this wide range of tastes you have - I look into it and what looks back is alot more of a 'music curmudgeon' than I previously envisioned. ;)

But that is a good thing, because it means I'm frakkin' LEARNING something from this thread. Which was my whole reason for getting involved to begin with. :)

Now, I can't say that eventually, I'll love everything that has been posted in this thread. I don't think any of us will be able to say that.

But if participation in this thread causes each participant to 'discover' even one or two new bands and broaden their horizons a bit, it's a success in my book. And it doesn't even matter if the few bands I 'discover' and now enjoy are ones you hate, or visa versa. The musical journey is personal to each of us. This thread is simply a tool that we can all use to discover music that perhaps we didn't even know existed in some cases. Every single link I didn't post myself is, to me, like stepping through a door to an adventure. Many of these links I would have NEVER discovered on my own...but when thrust in front of me by others...well, that just makes it ridiculously easy to try something new, instead of reverting to my same old standbys - AGAIN. And I have, too - like AJ, I have tried a TON of links in posts I did not personally review. Because for me, the review I write is not anywhere close to the funnest and most interesting part of this. The funnest and most interesting part is the adventure.

Hopefully, we are all learning and growing...while at the same time helping others to learn and grow. This shouldn't be about trying to impress others with our 'good taste'. This should be about just contributing fodder to the tool: sticking musical adventures out there for others..and clicking on some adventures of our own.

Discovering..and making it easy for others to discover.

That's what this is about, for me, anyway.

Personally, I think it would be fun (or maybe help us to not take 'dislikes' personally) if those of us who have posted a lot in this thread stop and post a list of bands they have followed up on and come to enjoy as a result of this thread, videos that have really 'made their day' or even interesting insights they have gained from the others posting here. Maybe it would make us all realize how much we have contributed to each other.

Because this thing with Zero really has me a bit disturbed. All bullshit aside here, I was pretty surprised by his post...partly because I didn't think any of this was personal...but partly because it made clear the fact that he has no idea how much I appreciated so many OTHER of his posts. :(
 
Because this thing with Zero really has me a bit disturbed. All bullshit aside here, I was pretty surprised by his post...partly because I didn't think any of this was personal...but partly because it made clear the fact that he has no idea how much I appreciated so many OTHER of his posts. :(

Obviously you haven't appreciated them enough to realize that "he" is a she ...
 
Or that it wasn't about you not liking the songs (although you do come across as very harsh at times) but rather about making me look bad for being insensitive and posting something offensive (when I didn't see it as offensive at all) and for sort of insinuating that I could have posted something in favour of Hitler. That's basically the gravest insult around here. It's possible I overreacted but in any case it had nothing to do with you not liking the songs I've posted and I preferred it if I wasn't portrayed as an oversensitive, whiny McCartney fan girl in this thread.
 
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Oh, and speaking of exotic instruments, can someone tell me what the weird looking guitar like instrument on the right in this video is? I'd be much obliged. The song also uses the banjo quite nicely (including a solo) but I guess that's not quite as exotic. The video will come off as incredibly weird to those who don't understand German. Rainald Grebe is a comedian who sings and the song is a satirical ode to the German state of Saxony Anhaltine.

[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hja8OVtcZTw[/yt]
 
Ah, cool, thanks. I knew I had seen something like that before but I couldn't remember what it was called.
 
Or that it wasn't about you not liking the songs (although you do come across as very harsh at times) but rather about making me look bad for being insensitive and posting something offensive (when I didn't see it as offensive at all) and for sort of insinuating that I could have posted something in favour of Hitler. That's basically the gravest insult around here. It's possible I overreacted but in any case it had nothing to do with you not liking the songs I've posted and I preferred it if I wasn't portrayed as an oversensitive, whiny McCartney fan girl in this thread.

Zero, it was not my intent to insinuate that you 'like' Hitler. You have never come across as a racist in any way, shape or form and I have no reason whatever to assume you are affiliated with any neo-Nazi groups or anything. I just don't speak German, and so have no idea at all what that song was about, one way or the other, other than it was about Hitler. And various ones of us have, over the course of this thread, posted things we may not have even liked - in some cases as a joke, in others, just to see what others thought. I have done that myself. Additionally, at least one band was brought up earlier in this thread that, in their early history, WERE racist and IIRC, affiliated with the Skinheads. I didn't assume the person who posted their song was a racist - they were just posting a song.

Anyway, I apologize for anything I said that hurt your feelings - that was never my intent and I was mortified when I read your post as I had no idea it would elicit the reaction it did. And as for my 'harshness', well, I think you are reading me sort of wrong. I tend to get sarcastically dramatic when I'm playing round - really in fun, more than anything else. Most of the stuff that you read as 'harsh', I'm laughing at, even as I type because it's so ridiculous. ;) And once again, if I don't like a video you post, I mean NO slight on you whatsoever. Please read my convo with Jetfire from last night, and perhaps that might help you see where I'm coming from in this thread. If I don't like something - especially something that is fairly 'new' (as in, the last 10-12 years or so), I'll say I don't like it. But I do not walk away wondering what's 'wrong' with YOU for liking it. I walk away wondering what's wrong with ME that *I* don't like it. Like, am I too much of a fuddy duddy? What? I question my own taste - not yours! Shoot - when I don't like something that someone else posts, I see it much more of a reflection on ME than on them. :lol: But I'm here to learn and explore, as I assume we all are in this thread. And I figure that's at least saying SOMETHING good about all of us: that we are interested in trying new things...but are also secure enough with the stuff we like to post it and not care if someone else doesn't care for it.

I hope that makes sense, because I really mean no ill-will, and hope you will continue to post in the thread. If it will make you more comfortable, I will attempt to dial back the silly drama...but really, that's all it was. It was not meant to be 'real'.

Now...I also see here that apparently you are a female. So I fucked that up too. :p Wonderful. Batting 1000, I am. So apologies on that bit as well. But might I ask why you chose to use 'Count' instead of 'Countess' then? Contrary to what another poster implied, I actually DO care about getting stuff like that right. But to me, "Count" pretty clearly implies male, just as you might assume that I am female from my own username of PKTrekGirl. Generally, most people don't use male/female nouns in their names if they are not of that gender...so I felt comfortable in making the leap without asking. But as it turns out, I leaped, apparently, into a big 'ole pile of doo. :lol:

Just wondering, is all. But now that I know, I will remember.

Now...do you think we can move on from this? I don't want to leave it if you are still annoyed with me. But I don't want to turn this into any more of a protracted personal discussion than it needs to be, since the topic is music and likely there are others who are anxious to get back on point.

I should also point out that you are welcome to PM me with any further items you'd like to address. But really...I meant no harm.
 
Nah, we're fine. I overreacted somewhat, anyway.

As for my username, when I thought about a nick here, I wanted to have something science-fictiony but not too obvious, so I chose the title of a book by one of my favourite sci-fi authors, William Gibson. I liked it because it can also be seen as a name. Indeed, on another board I use it, I'm usually adressed just as Zero and there was some joking around with the title.

We do have those nifty gender tags on here, though, you know. :p
 
I feel bad because in all this Eyes' post got buried so I thought I'd review the songs he posted and hope no one minds the double post.

Skepta vs. N-Dubz - So Alive

Hey, good hip-hop. That's something of a rarity - with me, anyway, because I have a very special taste in that genre. This song starts off really great and it delivers. I really appreciate the slightly arhythmic rapping here. Most rappers aren't that sophisticated. The only thing I wish they had done different is leaving the electronic distortion out of the chorus. But still, a great song.


Parade - Louder

Mmh, not really my style but I actually liked it. The arrangement for the verses is really good, didn't like the chorus so much. Good to listen to in a club or on the car but nothing I would sit down to listen to.


Devlin - Let It Go

At first I was afraid this was a lame R'n'B song but it's actually another great hip hop song. Looks as if the British scene is really good. Great beats and rapping, the chorus could be a bit less sappy, though.
You have an excellent taste in hip hop, good sir! :techman:


Here are mine:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-AzbQmUaYc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55usgSlFTlM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iL_zQcknsw (I apologise in advance for the language and I'm glad most of you won't understand the lyrics)
 
Here are mine:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-AzbQmUaYc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55usgSlFTlM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iL_zQcknsw (I apologise in advance for the language and I'm glad most of you won't understand the lyrics)

1. The Shins "Saint Simon"

Never heard before. Sounds like it came from the 60's. But I know The Shins came out in the 90's. Not bad...but not my thing. 8/10.

2. Ray Davies Other Peoples Lives Live Jools Holland 2006

Never heard before. Not bad. Reminds me of a group I saw at a wedding when I worked at a country club. Lite rock...old school sound. 7/10.

3. Westberlin Maskulin "Battlekings"

Never heard before. I understood a few words. :lol: Um is like rap? Kinda sounds like horrorcore...the music was kinda spooky. Not bad. 8/10.

Here are mine...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dO5uCKw4nl0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIF_b4WIlCQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACraVoR01Yg
 
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