Trek XI's Take vs. The Rest of the Franchise

[Falconfire]

The Motion Picture
$239,115,674 at $102,500,000 budget
+ 137m.
This must have been profitable for Paramount. The film made more than twice its budget.

Actually it was barely a profit once you factor in that 102 mil was only HALF the true budget which is what Paramount did.

They blew almost 80 million prior to TMP just on Phase II pre-production alone some of which was used (the bridge, parts of the engineering set and corridors) and some which was outright dumped (the original Refit E, other parts of the engineering sets, new costumes designed with the TOS color scheme in mind.)

 

[Borgminister]

These are just adjusted box office figures, right--no DVD sales and rentals included?

 

[barnaclelapse]

I don't believe so, no.

As for Final Frontier, I remember reading (I think it was one of Shatner's books, so I suppose it's to be taken with a grain of salt) that the movie had to compete with a ridiculously busy summer movie season and TNG providing the more casual Trek fans with their fix for a whole lot less (nothing) than a movie ticket.

It still wasn't a very good movie, but I'd like to imagine those things didn't help FF a whole lot.

The new one is still doing quite well. It lost out to Angels and Demons, but only by three million dollars. I think it's take was something like forty-three for the weekend.

 

[Islander]

The only thing I take out of these figures is regardless of number from time or inflation or evaluated in roupies, Nemesis will always suck...

 

[Eddie Roth]

The Motion Picture
$239,115,674 at $102,500,000 budget
+ 137m.
This must have been profitable for Paramount. The film made more than twice its budget.

Actually it was barely a profit once you factor in that 102 mil was only HALF the true budget which is what Paramount did.

They blew almost 80 million prior to TMP just on Phase II pre-production alone some of which was used (the bridge, parts of the engineering set and corridors) and some which was outright dumped (the original Refit E, other parts of the engineering sets, new costumes designed with the TOS color scheme in mind.)

Source please? Because I'm pretty sure the budget for TMP was only as high as I noted because of all the Phase II costs.

 

[Cyrus]

Yeah, Phase II costs have always been included in the TMP budget.

Also you will notice that the five highest-grossing of the films (I'm counting Star Trek as #5 already, it will pass FC in a day or so) are those released while there was no first-run Trek series on television. And if you consider the rather sizable drop in revenues from that to the films in between, I'd say this can't be a coincidence.

I don't think it's a coincidence. Lack of a TV series makes the movies more of an event. The first 4 movies were bonafide blockbusters, ranked among the top grossing movies of the year, and this one is headed that way.

 

[Eddie Roth]

So let's hope they learn a lesson from that and wait some time before they do a new TV show. Which I hope to see, of course, but the movie franchise should be firmly reestablished before they spread themselves too thin again.

 

[Mr. B]

Another variable worth taking into account is the advertising budget. I wasn't around for TMP's release but I would venture to guess than XI had record spending for pre-release promotion.

 

[Overgeeked]

What's the ranking with the new numbers?