Trek XI Teaser Poster
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Dayamm! 
Finally, the Grey Lady looks like a ship! Very, very nicely done, Vektor, and surely a shining response to anyone who insists that the original design just isn't 'detailed enough' to survive on the big screen. You've done an excellent job of maintaining what is best and most iconic about the design, and still managed to update it to today's 'sensibilities' without cluttering it up with unnecessary detail and 'eye-candy.'
I love the reaction thrusters strategically placed about the ship! And did you add a bit of entasis to the nacelles? They don't look straight - which is great. It's like the difference between a '67 and a '69 Camaro, or a '65 and a '67 Mustang - the same classic lines, but more toned and muscular without being swollen or gross.
The additional detail of the various windows, the weapons emplacements - sweet! It really reinforces the scale and majesty of the ship. (Oddly enough, though, the hangar door seems unfinished, somehow - maybe it's just the lighting, but it seems almost like only two clamshells)
It's like looking at the same ship we've seen for years and actually seeing it for the first time. Vektor, you have a gift for understated eloquence of design. I dare say this is the first time I've seen an update of the original ship that I like better than the refit. Bravo! I have some new wallpaper, as well
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Finally, the Grey Lady looks like a ship! Very, very nicely done, Vektor, and surely a shining response to anyone who insists that the original design just isn't 'detailed enough' to survive on the big screen. You've done an excellent job of maintaining what is best and most iconic about the design, and still managed to update it to today's 'sensibilities' without cluttering it up with unnecessary detail and 'eye-candy.'
I love the reaction thrusters strategically placed about the ship! And did you add a bit of entasis to the nacelles? They don't look straight - which is great. It's like the difference between a '67 and a '69 Camaro, or a '65 and a '67 Mustang - the same classic lines, but more toned and muscular without being swollen or gross.
The additional detail of the various windows, the weapons emplacements - sweet! It really reinforces the scale and majesty of the ship. (Oddly enough, though, the hangar door seems unfinished, somehow - maybe it's just the lighting, but it seems almost like only two clamshells)
It's like looking at the same ship we've seen for years and actually seeing it for the first time. Vektor, you have a gift for understated eloquence of design. I dare say this is the first time I've seen an update of the original ship that I like better than the refit. Bravo! I have some new wallpaper, as well
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Well, it's my impression that this is supposed to be a "Cage/WNMHGB" representation... it has the spikes the topside "black stripes" next to the nav lights... and in that version, the doors weren't visible at all. So, to me, it makes sense that they're there, but "understated."
Am I on the same page as you, Vektor?
Fantastic!!! Can we see a front,rear,top,bottom and side view! This is in my top 3 starship designs of all time and I bet you can guess the other 2! Incredible job Vektor!
I love the red green red hanger lights. Stop GO Stop.
Okay, I have to admit that I actually had to look up the word "entasis." The answer is yes. The nacelles widest diameter is just forward of the pylon attachment points and they taper at both ends. Seen in profile, it looks like an elongated, slightly teardrop-shaped oval. I actually applied--or emphasized--that shape in several places all over the ship, including the cross-section of the interconnecting dorsal and the nacelle pylons. Of course, it's also present in the shape of the B/C deck module, the impulse engines and the cutouts on the inboard sides of the nacelles.
If I had to cite anything about Jeffries' original design that I thought was lacking, it would be a vague sense of discord between some of the different parts, or at least, a sense that some parts weren't very smoothly connected to others. For example, the popsickle stick nacelle pylons. Here you have a design that looks like Pegasus in flight, with nearly all of its lines parallel to or canted toward the direction of travel, except for those anemic-looking, right-angle nacelle pylons. I didn't want to replicate the refit design, but I did choose to beef them up a little and give them a slight backward angle, which I'm surprised no one has yet mentioned for either loving or hating it.
Another point of interest about the nacelles: If you look closely, you may note that they are virtually identical to the ones shown in the infamous "Foolerprize" sketch that appeared on TrekMovie.com last April 1st.
It's really just the lighting in these renders. The hangar doors use the classic multi-segment clamshell design.
Wow, high praise, indeed! I would have to say that the refit is still my personal favorite, though I'm pleased at how this one came out.
Kinda sorta. The hangar doors were not intentionally understated, they just don't show up very well in this lighting. As for the rest, you're basically correct. I picked and chose from various elements of both the pilot and production versions of the Enterprise. I always thought the tall bridge module looked like some kind of abnormal growth so I ditched it in favor of the production version. Ditto the oversized deflector dish, with other obvious modifications. I also tried solid, copper colored nacelle caps, which don't look half bad, but I thought the glowy, spinny versions were too iconic not to have them. I did keep the spikes, though, as well the pilot-version markings on the primary hull.
I'm glad you kept the spikes. I've always liked them for some reason. And as far as the nacelle pylons are concerned, they are definitely an improvement over the originals IMO. I remember building the model kit many years ago and thinking that there was something about them that was lacking and I think you've identified what it was. Good job!
Now get back to work on the Grandeur!
Now get back to work on the Grandeur!
I think my favorite design elements are:
Gorgeous. Just... gorgeous! :thumbsup:
- The new impulse engine assembly, which elegantly incorporates what looks like an aft photon torpedo tube
- The scooped-in windows on the lower primary hull, which make absolute sense (the angles of the windows on Jefferies' original design are so steep that to an observer inside the Enterprise they would look like they're positioned at one's feet on the deck)
- The gently tapered warp nacelle pylons, which also were admittedly one of the weaker elements of the 1964 design.
Gorgeous. Just... gorgeous! :thumbsup:
She's absolutely fabulous, Vektor! As Ptrope said, it makes the Gray Lady look like a real ship.
My favorite parts:
- The new impulse engines.
- The hangar deck.
- The tapered nacelle pylons; as others have said, it looks much more natural.
What I'm iffy on:
- The inset radiators on the pylons. They look nice, but they're still putting me off a bit.
- The photon torpedoes on the saucer look like they'd blow the phasers off.
My favorite parts:
- The new impulse engines.
- The hangar deck.
- The tapered nacelle pylons; as others have said, it looks much more natural.
What I'm iffy on:
- The inset radiators on the pylons. They look nice, but they're still putting me off a bit.
- The photon torpedoes on the saucer look like they'd blow the phasers off.
Vekor I am hoping that you will post a front rear top bottom and side views of this beauty!!!!!
