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Trek-XI is gonna flop f***** big!

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pookha said: if a paramount staffer really did say that about comic con jumping the shark...
Well, Paramount Television invented "jumping the shark": good ol' Fonzie in "Happy Days". :guffaw:

...considering the amount of main stream media coverage the convention now gets
Paramount could get exactly the same amount of mainstream, and specialty SF media magazine covers, articles and even fan blog coverage (or more) by sending out well-timed copies of those natty, interactive, multimedia "press kits", which would contain a batch of reproducible stills, DVD of footage snippets of ST XI, dossiers of the crew, and transcripts of new interviews with the cast and creators. Which Paramount Marketing will surely do.

Why throw money away at Comic Con 08 preaching to a mob of fanboys who'll either:

1. badmouth the movie for not showing enough (kinda like now, only worse?), or

2. fully intend to go see the movie anyway, if only so they can badmouth it and then pretend like they only went once. :techman:
 
Comic-Con is basically a reach-around for the already-sold members of the geek culture.
My thought exactly. Well, maybe not exact but pretty darn close.

Comic-Con 2008 is not going to make or break Trek XI.

Exactly. It didn't make or break "Iron Man" or "The Dark Knight" either. People who think otherwise are "seeing" the tail wag the dog.

G4 had like 6 hours of coverage from COmic con, and barely any of it was comics, it was all movie promotion.

Woah. G4?

That means upwards of a dozen people saw that coverage.

:guffaw: :techman:
 
Comic-Con 2008 is not going to make or break Trek XI.
Maybe that's true. The point is that Comic-Con was a valuable promotional opportunity (like that provided for Iron Man last year), and Paramount failed to take advantage this year.

It's simply too early for the studio to start dumping a ton of ad money. What they did with the posters was more then enough for now.
How exactly would presenting at Comic-Con have cost a ton of money?
 
Does it not cost money to set up a promotion at Comic-Con? I have no idea how much, but it was apparently not something that TPTB felt was a justifiable expense just yet.
 
Does it not cost money to set up a promotion at Comic-Con?

Absolutely.

Look, the comic geeks at that convention will just have to get over their sulking that Paramount didn't suck up to them just as trek fans in general have had to with this project. If the movie's good, the studio's in good shape here. If not, then not.
 
Absolutely.

Look, the comic geeks at that convention will just have to get over their sulking that Paramount didn't suck up to them just as trek fans in general have had to with this project. If the movie's good, the studio's in good shape here. If not, then not.

Well I suppose to the counter-point, they did have a panel last year, when the movie was going to be at least a year and a half away. Not sure if people were exactly complaining then that they did. I suppose they had a bigger incentive this year and some more material to discuss. Maybe introduce some of the cast to everyone, etc.

I won't say that it's going to hurt Star Trek that they didn't do anything, but I'm not sure doing something a little bigger wasn't going to be counter-productive either.
 
Oh geez, not this crap again. This is why Trek is such at a downfall nowadays... I swear. Give the movie a chance. If you don't wanna see it, don't, and leave it alone. I was skeptical at first, but the more and more I read about it I think this movie maybe worth its wait. I'm not gonna criticize something before it's out.
I never said I don't want to see it. I am just afraid that they are running out of time to bring this movie to the attention of the non-Trekkers.

Huh? They've had a website with the Trailer up since last December; and the current release date is 10 mionths away. IF they did a massive advertising campaign now, most poeple would forget about the film by te time the release date rolled around; so advertising money spent now would just be one big waste with regard to pulling in 'non-Trekkers'. Most films start advertising 30 days prior to release (sometimes 60); so if you don't see print or TV ads or a more in depth movie trailer appearing in 8 or 9 months, THEN start railing. ;)
 
Does it not cost money to set up a promotion at Comic-Con?

Absolutely.

Look, the comic geeks at that convention will just have to get over their sulking that Paramount didn't suck up to them just as trek fans in general have had to with this project. If the movie's good, the studio's in good shape here. If not, then not.
"Geeks."

"Sulking."

Keep that up and some us might be left with the false impression that you're above it all. Some of us.
 
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Does it not cost money to set up a promotion at Comic-Con?

Absolutely.

Look, the comic geeks at that convention will just have to get over their sulking that Paramount didn't suck up to them just as trek fans in general have had to with this project. If the movie's good, the studio's in good shape here. If not, then not.
"Geeks."

"Sulking."

Keep that up and some us might be left with the false impression that you're above it all. Some of us.

Well, when you're sulking because a geeky movie didn't get enough coverage at a geeky convention how should it be interpreted?
 
Absolutely.

Look, the comic geeks at that convention will just have to get over their sulking that Paramount didn't suck up to them just as trek fans in general have had to with this project. If the movie's good, the studio's in good shape here. If not, then not.
"Geeks."

"Sulking."

Keep that up and some us might be left with the false impression that you're above it all. Some of us.

Well, when you're sulking because a geeky movie didn't get enough coverage at a geeky convention how should it be interpreted?
I have been criticizing Paramount for blowing it at SDCC. My comments should not be mistaken for "sulking." There is a difference.
 
I'm not sure if it will be a mainstream hit on the order of Iron Man or even Hancock but I do expect will do better than any Trek movie released to date (total box office, non-adjusted).

It's hard to go wrong with JJ Abrams as the director. He's got quite a cult following, myself included. The young Kirk / Spock thing I think is the best thing they could have done for story, as well.
 
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Woah. G4?

That means upwards of a dozen people saw that coverage.
Hey! I watch G4 all the time.

I like to watch that chick, Olivia whats-her-name -- ya know who I mean...that hot girl who's on that show that she's on.

...like I said, I watch it all the time.
 
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Here in America we call 'em "movie theaters." Boy, you sounded so GERMAN there. ;)

Filmtheater
Lichtspielhaus
Kino

Three different German words for one thing: cinemas or movie theaters.

Filmtheater is fairly self-explanatory and kino seems reminiscent of cinema to me... or perhaps kinetic, but break down lichtspeilhaus for me.

Licht is light, right? And haus is house... but does speil mean story?

((shrug)) I'm just interested in this stuff. So much of the German language seems made up of compound words.
 
Here in America we call 'em "movie theaters." Boy, you sounded so GERMAN there. ;)

Filmtheater
Lichtspielhaus
Kino

Three different German words for one thing: cinemas or movie theaters.

Filmtheater is fairly self-explanatory and kino seems reminiscent of cinema to me... or perhaps kinetic, but break down lichtspeilhaus for me.

Licht is light, right? And haus is house... but does speil mean story?

((shrug)) I'm just interested in this stuff. So much of the German language seems made up of compound words.
Yeah, Kino derives from the short form of Kinematograph (the German version of the Lumière's Cinématographe) which itself derives from the Greek term for movement (kinesis).

Lichtspielhaus is indeed composed of Licht (light), Haus (house) and Spiel, which I would rather translate with play. One could either understand this in the sense of playing (moving) lights or a play (in the theatrical sense) projected by light. Lichtspielhaus is actually a rather old term not in use anymore.

Hope that helps.
 
Filmtheater
Lichtspielhaus
Kino

Three different German words for one thing: cinemas or movie theaters.

Filmtheater is fairly self-explanatory and kino seems reminiscent of cinema to me... or perhaps kinetic, but break down lichtspeilhaus for me.

Licht is light, right? And haus is house... but does speil mean story?

((shrug)) I'm just interested in this stuff. So much of the German language seems made up of compound words.
Yeah, Kino derives from the short form of Kinematograph (the German version of the Lumière's Cinématographe) which itself derives from the Greek term for movement (kinesis).

Lichtspielhaus is indeed composed of Licht (light), Haus (house) and Spiel, which I would rather translate with play. One could either understand this in the sense of playing (moving) lights or a play (in the theatrical sense) projected by light. Lichtspielhaus is actually a rather old term not in use anymore.

Hope that helps.

:techman:
 
German is good for compound words. :D

"Light-play house" (or perhaps "light-game house") turns out to be a fairly accurate description of the meaning, unlike some other strictly literal translations.
 
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