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Trek-XI is gonna flop f***** big!

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I think it would've been nice for them to have something at ComicCon. Even nerds need to be convinced that Star Trek isn't totally lame anymore (just see this forum, for example.) I don't think it could possibly hurt to stir the nerd-pot a little. Even a small showing would be nice and wouldn't have cost much. And nerds do influence non-nerds to a degree also, so the positive buzz from it would've been nice.

And if anyone is interested in what Abrams thinks, he said he wanted something there, and if it were up to him, there would've been something at ComicCon. He was just overruled.

And I'm one of those people who doesn't go to conventions like that, but I have to say, I would've taken note anyway.
 
The hype from SDCC transcends just the people who attend the con.

It doesn't.
Yes it does. Don't be so arrogant.

I'm not, I'm making a judgment call based on my expertise of media and entertainment. I also spend a large part of my work day monitoring what occurs in the news cycle.

Outside of a piece on Conan last week, there was nothing on ComicCon. You do realize that the point of advertising is to attract people to your product that wouldn't already being planning to use your product, don't you?

Maybe Paramount will choose a different venue, something... unexpected(?) to promote ST XI?
Like what? Not showing any footage whatsoever till the day the movie releases?

We're currently 278 days from opening day. There probably isn't that much footage to show at this point.

This is all I'm getting from your posts "Mommy! I want it now! NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW!!!!"
 
"Arrogancy???"
And HE'S not from Germany! ;)
Arrogancy


Yes, it's a real word, and I'm not sure what being from Germany had to do with anything, in the first place, so why not let's talk in some sort of rational fashion about movie promotion (or perceived lack thereof.)

I simply posted that to point out how needlessly over the top it was.

Of COURSE I know what the word means!! I looked it up the same time you did.
;)
 
I too think it is bad that they missed to present 'Star Trek' at the Comic Con.
They completely ignored 'Star Treks' comic-roots...
Oh...
Wait...

:guffaw::techman:
A guy from GERMANY out of all places makes a completely uninformed statement and that amuses you?

Actually, the insistence that Comic-Con was some enormously important PR opportunity that Paramount blew amuses me a great deal more. It's just that ST-One meant to be funny.

Still waiting for the name of a movie that was a big success because it was promoted at Comic-Con, that wouldn't have been a big success if it hadn't been. Comic-Con is basically a reach-around for the already-sold members of the geek culture.
 
there was a very interesting piece about comic con in usa today

But those who do win the reverence of the Comic-Con faithful are usually bound for greater things. Jon Favreau, for instance, became the hit of last year's convention with footage of Iron Man, and it has become the gold standard of Comic-Con presentations. The movie has taken in $314.5 million so far, the most of any movie this year.

"Any success I've got, you really have to give to the fans here, and they don't give it lightly" Snyder says. "When I was first doing 300, we were thinking about what kind of magazine covers we could get. I said, 'How about Vanity Fair?' And the studio said, 'You'll be lucky to get Cat Fancy.' But once you get acceptance here, then you can think of going out to larger audiences. They're the gatekeepers of popular culture. You don't pass through those gates without their permission."

reuters

The Television Critics Assn. plans to push back the start date of its July press tour by about three weeks. That means TCA will now be after Comic-Con International -- the mega San Diego fan event increasingly viewed as competing with the critics' tour for the attention of the entertainment industry.


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time magazine

while with trek being a known property i dont think it was as critical for a major presence at comic con as it was for something like iron man it is interesting when time take them task for neglecting it.

Biggest Omission: Star Trek. Director J.J. Abrams and writers Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman all made the journey to San Diego for their new FOX show Fringe, and Abrams said he has footage of Star Trek ready to show, so how come the only thing fans got was a poster? Paramount, the studio releasing Star Trek next May, was a no-show in the panels. A studio staffer told me months ago he thought Comic-Con had "jumped the shark." How 'bout a little Vulcan logic, Paramount? It's hard to imagine a crowd better suited for starting the buzz wave on Abrams' rebooted Trek than Comic-Con's 125,000 faithful.

if a paramount staffer really did say that about comic con jumping the shark they are idiots considering the amount of main stream media coverage the convention now gets along with the news the tv critics want to change their date
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Comic-Con is basically a reach-around for the already-sold members of the geek culture.
My thought exactly. Well, maybe not exact but pretty darn close.

Comic-Con 2008 is not going to make or break Trek XI. It's simply too early for the studio to start dumping a ton of ad money. What they did with the posters was more then enough for now.
 
i dont know ..
when mass media like usa today and time notice...

that is moving beyond the normal geek sphere.
 
We've seen no more than 15 seconds footage from Abram's Trek and perhaps a couple of leaked or faked pix from set. The marketing might be compared to the "less is more" strategy of BlairWitch and Cloverfield. I haven't said much about this movie because apart from the 15 secs of film there isn't anything to be said. I think people on their websites who give this movie so much positive feedback (or negative) certainly have ulterior motives
 
I too think it is bad that they missed to present 'Star Trek' at the Comic Con.
They completely ignored 'Star Treks' comic-roots...
Oh...
Wait...

:guffaw::techman:
A guy from GERMANY out of all places makes a completely uninformed statement

As opposed to the expert opinions on mass-media-marketing expressed by the likes of yourself?
And what has my being from Germany to do with... anything?

BTW: 10 fucking months!
No-one even here talks about the teaser anymore. So anything shown at this Con will long be forgotten by the mainstream audience by the time they start with the 'normal' promotion of the film.
This Con serves no other purpose than to feed us fan-boys and -girls with bits and pieces; it will thus have no impact on how the movie will perform when it is released to the cinemas.
 
Here in America we call 'em "movie theaters." Boy, you sounded so GERMAN there. ;)
 
The new movie might be a success if it has a story which doesn't require overfamiliarity with 40+ years of Star Trek episodes and movies. It needs to be accessible to an audience who haven't read articles on Memory Alpha.
 
But those who do win the reverence of the Comic-Con faithful are usually bound for greater things. Jon Favreau, for instance, became the hit of last year's convention with footage of Iron Man, and it has become the gold standard of Comic-Con presentations. The movie has taken in $314.5 million so far, the most of any movie this year.
To me that article makes it sound like Comic Con was solely responsible for TDK's success. I'm going to lay out on the table here, and I mean this with the UPMOST RESPECT for the deceased and Heath Ledger, but I honestly believe that the hype around this movie came about due to Heath Ledger's death. It's practically a given. Almost a morbid curiosity thing to it. This is not to detract from the actors or the movie itself, I Imagine it would have been big, but Heath Ledger's death IMHO is no doubt what made curious movie goes come out for this, at least it's first weekend.

Comic Con events aren't exactly going to make front page news. There will be write ups for sure, but silly me.. I thought movie's became successful because of hype, trailers, TV commercials, press coverage, and what ever other marketing strategies. Not a convention. But what do I know, for I am just one of the average joe consumers.
 
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G4 had like 6 hours of coverage from COmic con, and barely any of it was comics, it was all movie promotion.
 
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