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Trek movies calling back to other Trek movies

JonnyQuest037

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I recently saw this exchange in another thread:

Regarding Scotty's off quoted multiplication factor of 4 and indeed his reputation as a "miracle worker", was it mentioned or even referenced at all before Star Trek 3?

Nope.

It's just like that "the needs of the many" thing: it was used in a movie, and then never went away. I'm actually surprised that "don't call me tiny" wasn't referenced again, too!

This made me realize that there were a lot of instances of the Trek movies referencing the previous movies, rather than the series, probably because they were more recent in memory to casual fans. So I thought it might be cool to create a list of times where the movies called back to themselves (I know that some of these were referenced in subsequent series as well, but I thought it'd be simpler to keep it confined to the films).

Here's what I came up with off the top of my head:

-"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one." (Established in TWOK, brought back in TSFS & TVH)
-The Kobayashi Maru test (Established in TWOK, referenced in TUC and ST '09)
-Scotty referred to as "The Miracle Worker" (Established in TSFS, referenced in TVH)
-Romulan Ale (Established in TWOK & referenced in TUC & NEM; in TOS, it was usually Saurian Brandy)
-"You lied." "I exaggerated." (Established in TWOK, called back to several times within TUC)

Can anyone think of any more?
 
David Marcus' death in The Search for Spock is referenced in The Undiscovered Country.
 
I was thinking more lines of dialogue than plot elements, folks. Obviously, when you're doing a sequel, it's natural to repeat some stuff from the previous movies.
 
I always got a vague feeling that one of Kirk's lines in Rura Penthe during St:6 harkened back to his cryptic reflection on the cliff climbing scene in ST:5

Undiscovered Country said:
Bones: Three months till retirement. What a way to finish

Kirk: We're not finished
Final Frontier said:
Kirk: I've always known... I'll die alone
 
Talking about referencing earlier Trek, in Star Trek V, Kirk states that he had a brother once and I was all set for him to mention his real brother but, instead, he says that it's Spock. I was very disappointed with that.
 
Wasn't there a piece of Dialoge in Undiscovered Country like this:

Kirk: Once Again we've saved civilization as we know it

McCoy: And this time they're not going to Prosecute
 
Wasn't there a piece of Dialoge in Undiscovered Country like this:

Kirk: Once Again we've saved civilization as we know it

McCoy: And this time they're not going to Prosecute
Well, then McCoy actually does hearken back to the series by teasing Spock about "Having feelings".
 
I always got a vague feeling that one of Kirk's lines in Rura Penthe during St:6 harkened back to his cryptic reflection on the cliff climbing scene in ST:5

Undiscovered Country said:
Bones: Three months till retirement. What a way to finish

Kirk: We're not finished
Final Frontier said:
Kirk: I've always known... I'll die alone

You mean when a 55 year old William Shatner was freeclimbing El Capitian?:lol::lol::lol:

I know Shatner wanted himself to look like the ubermench, but jeez you think he'd know the line where it was just ridiculous to show the feat he was doing. Why not just strap him in a harness and have him tow an aircraft carrier while jogging by the sea. It has about the same amount of realism of him free climbing El Cap.
 
Well Zefram Cochrane did say "So you're on some kind of Star Trek" in First Contact.

I'd say that pretty much references everything that has ever been associated with the Star Trek franchise.
 
I know Shatner wanted himself to look like the ubermench, but jeez you think he'd know the line where it was just ridiculous to show the feat he was doing. Why not just strap him in a harness and have him tow an aircraft carrier while jogging by the sea. It has about the same amount of realism of him free climbing El Cap.

How about the deleted GEN scene of an even older Kirk orbital skydiving?
 
I know Shatner wanted himself to look like the ubermench, but jeez you think he'd know the line where it was just ridiculous to show the feat he was doing. Why not just strap him in a harness and have him tow an aircraft carrier while jogging by the sea. It has about the same amount of realism of him free climbing El Cap.

How about the deleted GEN scene of an even older Kirk orbital skydiving?

That one I could buy on some level. George Bush the elder did a few skydives in his 80's and really all you have to fall and remember to pull your rip cord, although the landing might be hard on your knees. Doesn't exactly require tip top physical shape.

But free climbing El Cap? Even among world class rock climbers today there are only a handful that would even attempt such a thing. And it usually takes skilled climbers using safety equipment a few days to get to the top and they actually sleep in hanging tents.

Seriously it's easier to climb to the top of Mt. Everest. Regular people, some in their 60's have made it. If you tackle El Cap you'd better be a bona fide expert who knows exactly what they are doing or you are going to die, safety equipment or not.
 
You mean when a 55 year old William Shatner was freeclimbing El Capitian?

There probably are a few 55 year old freeclimbers around. They probably don't have a jet-boot Spock around to catch them if they fall.

I don't know for sure one way or the other, but it seems to be all the freeclimbers I've seen are early 30's at their oldest and they either seem to retire or die after that point. I'm sure some make it into their 40's or maybe even 50's but the rocks they're climbing by then are a lot less challenging than El Cap.
 
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