TREK law show?

[blaXXer]

Yeah let's just take something remotely famous and slap a Trek-logo on it, just because we're out of original ideas -.-

 

[cardinal biggles]

And that is where you and I do not agree. I think they absolutely need to water trek down (like, no more Technobabble) and appeal to a broader scope. BIONIC WOMAN is a perfect example. That show, according to my friends who watched it, was really good, and yet, it was axed because NBC saw the demos coming in.

And this ties in to a new Trek series how...?

Star Trek needs to try something new. Appealing to the fan base will get another TREK show that appeals to maybe 2 million people on a good week...those are terrible numbers for what is considered one of the more dynamic franchises...

As I've pointed out, your ideas aren't anything new, they're just Trek in a blender — Trek + cop show, Trek + C.S.I., Trek + lawyer show, Trek + pro wrestling, Trek + Survivor. It reminds me of the beginning of Robert Altman's The Player, as film producer Griffin Mill (Tim Robbins) listens to a parade of writers and directors pitch him ill-conceived sequels to classic films or pastiches of other films.

 

[RobertScorpio]

And that is where you and I do not agree. I think they absolutely need to water trek down (like, no more Technobabble) and appeal to a broader scope. BIONIC WOMAN is a perfect example. That show, according to my friends who watched it, was really good, and yet, it was axed because NBC saw the demos coming in.

And this ties in to a new Trek series how...?

Star Trek needs to try something new. Appealing to the fan base will get another TREK show that appeals to maybe 2 million people on a good week...those are terrible numbers for what is considered one of the more dynamic franchises...

As I've pointed out, your ideas aren't anything new, they're just Trek in a blender — Trek + cop show, Trek + C.S.I., Trek + lawyer show, Trek + pro wrestling, Trek + Survivor. It reminds me of the beginning of Robert Altman's The Player, as film producer Griffin Mill (Tim Robbins) listens to a parade of writers and directors pitch him ill-conceived sequels to classic films or pastiches of other films.

We all have our assigned duties..

Rob

 

[RobertScorpio]

Yeah let's just take something remotely famous and slap a Trek-logo on it, just because we're out of original ideas -.-

Well, didn't they do that with Enterprise, and look how good that went over. You can stick your nose up at my ideas, but at least I have them...

However, why not put up some of YOUR own ideas for the future of Trek. Would love to see what you could come up with.

Rob

 

[blaXXer]

Yeah I'm with biggles on this subject. It seems to me, that you're just tossing out half-cooked ideas to open a new thread, again -.-

 

[EmoVulcan]

No and it can't be well done. We know too little of the law there let alone how it would work. Anything they say will end up sounding unrealistic or stupid.

 

[Balthier the Great]

Well, I have an issue with trying to make trek just like the flavour of the month. True, it might become a fad, but I don't think that it would become nearly as long lived as Trek setting a trend itself.

I'd point to Crusade as something like that -- the concept was pretty much Trek in the b5 universe. It was good, but it wouldn't have lasted even if the suits hadn't pulled the plug before airing the shows. It was the flavor of the month, and that's about it. Battlestar has lasted far longer because while it has the same ship-in-space motif as Trek, it isn't Trek with new paint, it was something different. It was humankind on the run simply trying to survive.

I guess what i'm saying is that if Trek wants staying power, it would be far far better to SET the trend rather than having a producer who takes the flavor of the month and does the exact same thing that everybody else is doing. If the cutting edge idea just so happened to be law or medical, it might be legitamate. but ZOMG klingon Denny Crane! isn't going to work.

 

[AlxxlA]

What's next? Interstellar Lawsuits?


How about:

Fleet Captain Christopher Pike v. Starfleet Engineering Corps (Accused of: Endangerment of life through faulty wheelchair design)

Captain Robert April v. Captain James Kirk (Accused of: Identity theft)

Lieutenant Commander Chakotay v. Ensign Seska (Accused of: Stalking)

Captain Jean-Luc Picard and Captain Kathryn Janeway v. Starfleet Engineering Corps (Accused of: Manufacturing faulty replicators which do not know the meaning of "Earl Grey, Hot" and "Coffee, Black")

Doctor Lewis Zimmerman v. Bajoran Provisional Government (Accused of: Designing faulty holoprojectors)

I have far too much time on my hands.

 

[RobertScorpio]

Well, I have an issue with trying to make trek just like the flavour of the month. True, it might become a fad, but I don't think that it would become nearly as long lived as Trek setting a trend itself.

I'd point to Crusade as something like that -- the concept was pretty much Trek in the b5 universe. It was good, but it wouldn't have lasted even if the suits hadn't pulled the plug before airing the shows. It was the flavor of the month, and that's about it. Battlestar has lasted far longer because while it has the same ship-in-space motif as Trek, it isn't Trek with new paint, it was something different. It was humankind on the run simply trying to survive.

I guess what i'm saying is that if Trek wants staying power, it would be far far better to SET the trend rather than having a producer who takes the flavor of the month and does the exact same thing that everybody else is doing. If the cutting edge idea just so happened to be law or medical, it might be legitamate. but ZOMG klingon Denny Crane! isn't going to work.

All find and dandy...but just what exactly would you do? You see, I think a TREK law show or medical show would be different, compared to what they have done before a million times...

You may favor another crew on some ship, with a few aliens mixed in, with one observing humanity as an outsider so we can learn about our selves? Sound familiar? It should..that IS and HAS been the Trek formula for 40+ years...and the general public has said with a resounding voice..ENOUGH ALREADY!!!!...GIVE US SOMETHING NEW!!!...

Rob
Scorpio

 

[cardinal biggles]

Did they really say "Give us something new"? Or maybe your hearing is off, and what they really said was "These stories are shit, and I couldn't give a rat's ass about the characters. Hire better writers and producers!" There was nothing wrong with the premise of either Voyager or Enterprise. Where they failed was in the execution: poorly developed characters, and poorly written stories.

If Abrams' new movie is well-written, yet still flops at the box office, I might be inclined to give your position a bit more credence. Until then, I still say there's life in the formula of a crew on a starship tooling around the galaxy on various missions.

 

[MeanJoePhaser]

Samuel T. Cogley: Attorney at Law.

Starring Charles Martin Smith as Samuel T. Cogley.

 

[blaXXer]

can we let it die already???