If they're trying to emulate the real-world for the program, then yes.
Trek History Was Altered (Yet Again)
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If they're trying to emulate the real-world for the program, then yes.
you know, i read this and i cant help but wonder if and or how The Omega Glory story fits in in anyway. an interesting thought if nothing else
maybe not so much with Kahn, overall, ya know
okay, -EDIT-
i didnt really flesh out my idea very well, so im gonna try again
since Omega IV was postulated to be a "pre-parallel" to Earth, What If THAT was also supposed to happen to earth, but due to interference from outside sources and humans from the future, things continued to change, and more over what if the TCW bad guys actually WERE supposed to be in control, ect ect ect
a bit far fetched, but hey, so is alot of Star Trek
maybe not so much with Kahn, overall, ya know
okay, -EDIT-
i didnt really flesh out my idea very well, so im gonna try again
since Omega IV was postulated to be a "pre-parallel" to Earth, What If THAT was also supposed to happen to earth, but due to interference from outside sources and humans from the future, things continued to change, and more over what if the TCW bad guys actually WERE supposed to be in control, ect ect ect
a bit far fetched, but hey, so is alot of Star Trek
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My first thought would be that the Omega IV thing was the doing of a time-traveling US patriot whose time machine happened to take him across space as well. Perhaps somebody from Mark Twain's era stumbled upon the time/space machinery of those soul-eating folks?
I mean, the Yangs and Kohms might have been on the verge of planetary war when this guy arrived with his flags and scrolls, and with some knowledge of how to wage efficient 19th century war. The guy thus became a major influence in that war, even though the causes of the war had nothing to do with America or communism as such. And the symbols adopted would have survived while the memory of their origin or original significance to the Omegans would not.
Timo Saloniemi
I mean, the Yangs and Kohms might have been on the verge of planetary war when this guy arrived with his flags and scrolls, and with some knowledge of how to wage efficient 19th century war. The guy thus became a major influence in that war, even though the causes of the war had nothing to do with America or communism as such. And the symbols adopted would have survived while the memory of their origin or original significance to the Omegans would not.
Timo Saloniemi
Only the last five years of Voyager. The first two were good.
And you forgot the first three years of Enterprise, and TATV. And anything involing Trip.
And Luxana Troi.
And City on the Edge of Forever.
And The Inner Light.
All THAT should be ignored.
wait? why should it be ignored? just because its bad?
All of this stuff resolves very easily with one simple idea i picked up from a fanzine once.
Star trek is about several DIFFERENT alternate universes, with persons
and devices which are so similar that they SEEM to be the same.
This answers a LOT of those questions. Like if you sum total all of spocks
"odds" calculations and come up with the odds that they could survive each
of those situations and its like trillions or quadrillions to one. WELLLLL...
SEE; theres 1001 universes where trek is going on and only the more dramtic
stories from any given specific universe ever get told.
You don't hear about the two dozen universes in which the enterprise doesn't make it the first six months, or etc, not because that isn't true in some of those universes, but because it wouldn't make good story.
Thus, star trek can claim to be more or less a brief history of the assorted universes in a compare/ contrast format which the standard viewer doesn't
see the differences.
SO; there are some earths parallel to ours where Kahn is right now wreaking havoc. But thats not going on HERE.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Many-worlds_theory
from memory alpha;
Lieutenant Worf encountered a quantum fissure which caused him to begin shifting between quantum realities in 2370. In several universes, Riker was still Enterprise first officer, and planned a surprise birthday party for Worf even though he made it expressly clear he did not want one. In others, he had been promoted to captain. In the final universe in which Worf arrived, Riker was the captain, as Captain Picard was lost in the Borg encounter of 2367. In another reality, the Borg had invaded the Federation and the Enterprise was one of the few ships left. Riker was in command of that ship as well, and was desperate not to return to his universe once all of the Enterprises began spilling into a single universe. After attempting to get the attention of the present-reality Enterprise by firing lightly upon them, the Borg-infested ship was destroyed by Capt. Riker with the alternate Riker onboard to prevent further damage to his ship. The events following Worf's encounter were erased from the timeline once the fissure was sealed. (TNG: "Parallels")
All of this stuff resolves very easily with one simple idea i picked up from a fanzine once.
Star trek is about several DIFFERENT alternate universes, with persons
and devices which are so similar that they SEEM to be the same.
This answers a LOT of those questions. Like if you sum total all of spocks
"odds" calculations and come up with the odds that they could survive each
of those situations and its like trillions or quadrillions to one. WELLLLL...
SEE; theres 1001 universes where trek is going on and only the more dramtic
stories from any given specific universe ever get told.
You don't hear about the two dozen universes in which the enterprise doesn't make it the first six months, or etc, not because that isn't true in some of those universes, but because it wouldn't make good story.
Thus, star trek can claim to be more or less a brief history of the assorted universes in a compare/ contrast format which the standard viewer doesn't
see the differences.
SO; there are some earths parallel to ours where Kahn is right now wreaking havoc. But thats not going on HERE.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Many-worlds_theory
from memory alpha;
Lieutenant Worf encountered a quantum fissure which caused him to begin shifting between quantum realities in 2370. In several universes, Riker was still Enterprise first officer, and planned a surprise birthday party for Worf even though he made it expressly clear he did not want one. In others, he had been promoted to captain. In the final universe in which Worf arrived, Riker was the captain, as Captain Picard was lost in the Borg encounter of 2367. In another reality, the Borg had invaded the Federation and the Enterprise was one of the few ships left. Riker was in command of that ship as well, and was desperate not to return to his universe once all of the Enterprises began spilling into a single universe. After attempting to get the attention of the present-reality Enterprise by firing lightly upon them, the Borg-infested ship was destroyed by Capt. Riker with the alternate Riker onboard to prevent further damage to his ship. The events following Worf's encounter were erased from the timeline once the fissure was sealed. (TNG: "Parallels")
If you'll notice... there is a 0 (zero) and an o (the letter). There is a difference.
Easy to answer:
Khan=Dick Cheney... took over the Free World with G. W. Bush. Caused havoc in several countries throughout the world.
Henry Starling=Bill Gates, but he didn't disappear (yet)
inertia/gravity=LSD, marijuana, crack... all failed attempts
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