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TREK Continuity goofs

sbk1234 said:
Speaking of TWOK, I'm surprised nobody mentioned Kirk's rising blood stain.

In Space Seed, Spock referred to the Eugenics War as the "last of the so-called World Wars." However, by TNG, it's being pretty well established that WW3 was in the mid 21st Century.

I think they even referred to WW3 being in the 21st century in The Savage Curtain.
 
Trills went from forehead aliens to spotty aliens 'cause Terry is too pretty to glob shit on.

Tellarites went from 3-fingered pig-descended aliens in TOS to 5-fingered merely-ugly aliens in ENT.

Romulans should not have cloaked ships (or mines!) in ENT's time period.
 
^ Meh, I have no problem with cloaked mines, because it's easier to cloak a small warhead that doesn't have to balance power from the cloak for its other systems. I'd have to rewatch the ep again to decide about the ships, but I recall they didn't fully cloak. And I have no problem with the suggestion that the Romulans have been developing the technology for a long time before it became feasible for ships in BOT.

And I'm always impressed by how many complaints I see about the infamous sequence in "Darmok," which may indeed be an error. Yet I've yet to see a single complaint about the Klingon ships that do the exact same thing in "Way of the Warrior"!
 
Deanna claiming shes never kissed Riker with a beard before in Insurrection

Scotty being on the Enterprise-B when Kirk was "Killed" but later saying he bets Kirk pulled the Enterprise out of mothballs to come rescue him in The Next Generation episode Relics.

Data talking about not having enough boyouncy to float and having to walk a mile underwater to the surface, while being designed to serve as a floatation device in Insurrection.

Data not being game enough to tackle Samuel Clemens who had a pistol pointed at him in Times Arrow, but having no problem facing a machine gun in First Contact.
 
Zeppster said:
Here's some from TOS

The year is the obvious one. There are several shows where it disputes the year. Squire of Gothos says it was 800 years after the French Napoleon era which would be the 26th century I think. Space Seed says it's only been 200 years since the 1990s which you can say okay it's 250 maybe, so that's just a minor one. Changling says it's 300 years. There's more that probably mess up but that's off the top of my head.

Spock talks about his mother as in past tense in 2 episodes(Corbomite Menuever and The Naked Time), but they are alive in Journey to Babel. Also how would Kirk not know who his first officer's parents were. Especially when Sarek is presented as important as he is and he is married with a human. It didn't seem that Vulcans and humans were married a lot from anything else. I just find is strange that Kirk having served with Spock for years(according to Amok Time) didn't know who Spock's parents were.

TWOK-How did Khan recognize Chekov when he wasn't on the Enterprise when Khan was.

Oh, year wise the worst is Who Mourns for Addonais where Apollo states "It's been 5000 years..." since ancient Greek civiliation goes back to 750 BC or so. Thus this places Star Trek in the 40th century or so.

Then there's the TMP 'Vulcan planet surface shot that SHOWS a moon, when in the TV series Spock says, "Vulcan has no moon."

From Immunity Syndrome Spock states that "Vulcan has not been conquered in its collective memory - therefore no Vulcan can concieve of a conquerer..."

Yet (and I can remember the line, but not the episode where it came from) - Bones offers Spock a drink and Spock declines saying that Vulcans don't drink alohol; and McCoy responds with: "No wonder they were conquered."

Then, there is 'Nurse Chapel'(played by Majel Barret) in The Naked Time(the 7th episode filmed) - which also aired BEFORE What Are Little Girls Made Of (the 10th episode filmed) and in the episode they make a BIG point of introducing 'Nurse Chapel'(still played by Majel Barret) and the fact she just recently signed on - since in that episode, it's a major plot point that she was the fiancee of Dr. Roger Corby.

Then in Amok Time Spock makes a major point of stating that Vulcans do not discuss their mating rituals with outworlders; yet later in The Cloud Minders Mr. Spock just states off the cuff and openly to the female Droxine that Vulcans mate once every seven years.

Then there's The Enterprise Incident where, all of a sudden Kirk and Co. are SURPRISED that the Romulans have a cloaking device that renders their ships invisible. :eek: :brickwall: Since they first discovered Romulans had a cloaking device in Balance of Terror; two seasons earlier. (Also, amazingly, by the next episode, the 1701 no longer has it, although Scotty DID get it working - but this ain't a canon violation per se ;)).

Also, lets not forget the WIDELY VARYING actual 'speed' of 'Warp Speed' since in That Which Survives the 1701 traverses 997.6 light years in 48 hours MOSTLY at 'Warp Factor 8' (although to be fair, they did get to Warp 14 for about 15 minutes or so). :)
 
In Encounter at Farpoint Data says he's from the Academy Class of '78, yet The Neutral Zone establishes that the current year is 2364. Unless the original intent was to have Data in Starfleet for close to 90 years prior to the series beginning.
 
EliyahuQeoni said:
In Encounter at Farpoint Data says he's from the Academy Class of '78, yet The Neutral Zone establishes that the current year is 2364. Unless the original intent was to have Data in Starfleet for close to 90 years prior to the series beginning.

Mr. Data ALSO uses contractions from time to time in the TNG episodes prior to Datalore.

In Heart of Glory Mr. Worf states he was found alive at Khitomer; and then taken to the planet Galt (a farming colony) and raised there until he went to the Academy and joined Starfleet. He even mentions a Human step brother that entered the Academy with him, hated it, and returned to Galt. Yet in later episodes when we finally meet Worf's adoptive parents - now he was (and always had been it seems) raised on Earth itself.

In Angel One Federation starships are being attacked by Romulans at the Neutral Zone border; and at the end of the episode the 1701-D warps away to help out. Later in the episode The Neutral Zone Geordi states the last time the Federation encountered Romulans, it was 50 years ago and cost thousands of lives. Then in Yesterday's Enterprise, we find out the 1701-C encountered Romulans only 23 years earlier. :vulcan: :wtf:
 
the New Frontier novel "Gateways: Cold Wars" suggests that the Ceti Alpha planet blew up due to the presence of an Iconian gateway.

Vulcan doesn't have a moon. It's a tidally-locked twin planet. which has got a moon.

The Eugenics Wars as a world war could be down to historical reinterpertation, after it's suggested WWII ran from 1933 or so, through to 1999... the conflicts of the 1990s and the confrontations of the mid 21st century could be interperted as seperate wars or by one big war.

[plug]read my article on World War III, the Eugenics Wars and the inter-war period: here [/plug]
 
A few good catches here. But a couple aren't canon flaws.




Then there's the TMP 'Vulcan planet surface shot that SHOWS a moon, when in the TV series Spock says, "Vulcan has no moon."

This was fixed on the Directors Cut of TMP.


From Immunity Syndrome Spock states that "Vulcan has not been conquered in its collective memory - therefore no Vulcan can concieve of a conquerer..."

Yet (and I can remember the line, but not the episode where it came from) - Bones offers Spock a drink and Spock declines saying that Vulcans don't drink alohol; and McCoy responds with: "No wonder they were conquered."


I think it was Conscious of a King. But yeah that's a bad one.

Then, there is 'Nurse Chapel'(played by Majel Barret) in The Naked Time(the 7th episode filmed) - which also aired BEFORE What Are Little Girls Made Of (the 10th episode filmed) and in the episode they make a BIG point of introducing 'Nurse Chapel'(still played by Majel Barret) and the fact she just recently signed on - since in that episode, it's a major plot point that she was the fiancee of Dr. Roger Corby.


The mistake there is more when the episodes are put in there. If you want to go that technical. Corbomite Manuever was said that it was the 3rd day of the 5 year mission at the very start at the episode yet that was about the 8th episode televised.


Then there's The Enterprise Incident where, all of a sudden Kirk and Co. are SURPRISED that the Romulans have a cloaking device that renders their ships invisible. :eek: :brickwall: Since they first discovered Romulans had a cloaking device in Balance of Terror; two seasons earlier.


Actually they had an invisibility screen in BoT. They never said cloaking devise and they were still able to detect the Romulan ship. In Enterprise Incident it wasn't just an invisibility screen you couldn't detect this ship also. So that one didn't hurt canon. Watch BOT sometime and you see despite the Romulan ship being invisible the Enterprise follows the Romulan as a shadow.
 
Zeppster said:
The mistake there is more when the episodes are put in there. If you want to go that technical. Corbomite Manuever was said that it was the 3rd day of the 5 year mission at the very start at the episode yet that was about the 8th episode televised.

Actually, it's not a continuity error because the line was "We're in the 3rd day of star-mapping"; and in context, as they are mapping Bailey says to Spock, "Three days of this sir. Other ships MUST have made maps of some of this.."; to which Spock replies, "Negative, Mr. Bailey, we're the first ship to get this far..."

Niether line was in reference to the '5 year mission'. :)
 
EliyahuQeoni said:
In Encounter at Farpoint Data says he's from the Academy Class of '78, yet The Neutral Zone establishes that the current year is 2364. Unless the original intent was to have Data in Starfleet for close to 90 years prior to the series beginning.

I always figured Data was using some shortened use of a stardate...
 
StewMc said:
Redshirts_Widow said:
One of my personal favourite for the latter would be in TNG's 'The Inner Light' in which Picard collapses on the bridge and is being administered to by Crusher. When we return to the scene after a fantasy interlude, the dear doctor is still in the same position, still earnestly caring for the captain, only with a completely different hairstyle! (She clearly got bored in the commercial break...)

IIRC the same thing happens during the few in-show seconds that pass between BOBW Part I and BOBW Part II (her uniform seems to have changed shade too, guess that's a lighting thing?).

IIRC, costume designer Bob Blackman was always trying to get a handle on the science-division blue in the third season, finally settling on a teal. The reason being that the original darker shade of blue that was chosen by William Weiss Theiss often conflicted with the blue screen used during the production.

First-season version ( Original SF uniform TNG )

First third-season version, two-piece ( Early 3rd season uniform )

Mid third-season version, jumpsuit ( 3rd season female jumpsuit )
 
Zeppster said:
Here's some from TOS

The year is the obvious one. There are several shows where it disputes the year. Squire of Gothos says it was 800 years after the French Napoleon era which would be the 26th century I think.
Not quite: Gothos is established to be 900 light-years from Earth and Trelane acts as if he's been observing Napoleon through a telescope and is surprised that it's not contemporary observations.

However, as it's not possible to resolve things as small as the details of a Napoleonic uniform from 900 light-years away there must be time-warping gimmicks involved; it's of only mild interest to determine just what gimmick that is.


TWOK-How did Khan recognize Chekov when he wasn't on the Enterprise when Khan was.
Well, you couldn't have Sulu doing that part in The Wrath of Khan: he wasn't aboard the Enterprise that week either.
 
Unicron said:
^ Meh, I have no problem with cloaked mines, because it's easier to cloak a small warhead that doesn't have to balance power from the cloak for its other systems.

It is? You know this? In what ITT Tech engineering school do they teach the ins and out of cloaking technology? Exactly how big is a cloaking device? What are its power needs?

I'd have to rewatch the ep again to decide about the ships, but I recall they didn't fully cloak. And I have no problem with the suggestion that the Romulans have been developing the technology for a long time before it became feasible for ships in BOT.

They do indeed cloak, right on screen. Like it was perfectly feasible right then and there, not like it would take them another 150 years to perfect it.
 
Son_of_Soong said:

Scotty being on the Enterprise-B when Kirk was "Killed" but later saying he bets Kirk pulled the Enterprise out of mothballs to come rescue him in The Next Generation episode Relics.

That one's easy enough to rationalize. Geordi did say there was some signal degradation when he pulled Scotty out of the transporter. His memories of Kirk's "death" on the Enterprise B could have been lost due to the signal degradation.
 
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