Trek already cured death

[James]

One of the big complains I am seeing is that Khan's blood cures death. Well by the time TNG rolled around, Death had already been cured. In the Neutral Zone Beverly resurrects 3 frozen humans stored in a satellete.

"Data," Picard says, "They were ALREADY Dead!"

They weren't dead in that Satellite, they were in cryogenic stasis. The actual dead person was a skeleton in one of the chambers. They did however heal them, they all had health issues.

 

[BillJ]

They weren't dead in that Satellite, they were in cryogenic stasis. The actual dead person was a skeleton in one of the chambers. They did however heal them, they all had health issues.

For people who keep coming in here and telling us that Abrams work isn't Trek, some people don't seem to actually know the contents of what they think is Trek.

DATA: I was able to retrieve some information from the ancient disk I removed from the module's computer. Her name is Clare Raymond, age thirty five, occupation homemaker. Must be some kind of construction work.
CRUSHER: She died of an embolism. It probably happened very suddenly, otherwise her physical condition was excellent.

 

[Christopher]

Yes, the idea was the three of them were dead by the standards of 20th-century medicine, but were frozen immediately after death in the hopes that future medicine could revive them. This was the gist of the cryonics fad which was popular when the episode was written and is still around today (it was featured in a Castle episode a couple of years ago). Obviously it wouldn't be safe or legal to freeze someone who's still alive, since the freezing itself would kill them; we're nowhere near figuring out how to freeze and revive a living human. Cryonics works by freezing the recently deceased and hoping that maybe, someday, future science will find a cure, not only for whatever killed them, but for the additional cell damage caused by the freezing process. Sometimes they even just freeze the head in the hopes that the brain can one day be transplanted to a cloned body or installed in a robot or uploaded to cyberspace or something. Obviously those subjects aren't still alive.

 

[Ln X]

In Star Trek, death is merely an inconvenient, passing phase. Muggles don't understand.

But even wizards could not bring people from the dead. Although they could raise a whole army of zombies by reanimating the dead...

 

[Locutus of Bored]

In Star Trek, death is merely an inconvenient, passing phase.

It means no worries for the rest of their days.

It's their problem-free philosophy.

Hakuna MaData!

 

[CorporalClegg]

 

[Silvercrest]

Wouldn't it be cool if from now on McCoy's diagnosis for freshly dead people would be 'he has a mild case of death'.

I can't quite see that replacing "He's dead, Jim."

In fact, our current definition of death is different from the past definition, because modern medical science allows reviving people later in the process than was once considered possible, at least when the conditions are right.

"It's death, Jim, but not as we know it."

 

[marksound]

Wouldn't it be cool if from now on McCoy's diagnosis for freshly dead people would be 'he has a mild case of death'.

I can't quite see that replacing "He's dead, Jim."

In fact, our current definition of death is different from the past definition, because modern medical science allows reviving people later in the process than was once considered possible, at least when the conditions are right.

"It's death, Jim, but not as we know it."

"He's only mostly dead, Jim."

 

[Greg Cox]

I gotta admit, one aspect of TOS that hasn't really aged well is how quick McCoy is to pronounce somebody dead. Heck, most modern medical dramas show the doctors laboring mightily to revive patients who have coded, never giving up until several minutes have passed. But McCoy rarely even tries to revive a redshirt; he just shrugs and pronounces them dead within seconds of them being zapped by an energy bolt or poisoned thorn.

 

[Christopher]

^I think TNG did the same thing, though. In "Skin of Evil," we saw Beverly going to great lengths to save Tasha Yar, but in later seasons, they often declared other characters dead far more quickly, because the story didn't have room to focus on the revival efforts.

 

[USSPhilippi]

Wouldn't it be cool if from now on McCoy's diagnosis for freshly dead people would be 'he has a mild case of death'.

I can't quite see that replacing "He's dead, Jim."

In fact, our current definition of death is different from the past definition, because modern medical science allows reviving people later in the process than was once considered possible, at least when the conditions are right.

"It's death, Jim, but not as we know it."

"He's only mostly dead, Jim."

I'm surprised it's taken this many posts for someone to reference "The Princess Bride".

 

[Commishsleer]

I gotta admit, one aspect of TOS that hasn't really aged well is how quick McCoy is to pronounce somebody dead. Heck, most modern medical dramas show the doctors laboring mightily to revive patients who have coded, never giving up until several minutes have passed. But McCoy rarely even tries to revive a redshirt; he just shrugs and pronounces them dead within seconds of them being zapped by an energy bolt or poisoned thorn.

I hope modern medical dramas are true. I want people trying hard to rescusitate me. I wonder what those doctors really do.

Anyway McCoy doesn't waste his time over redshirts.
He's a pretty pessimistic guy. He was pretty quick to abandon Kirk in "The Tholian Web" and declare him dead. For goodness sake Spock had more faith.
And he has declared people dead a couple of times when they weren't really.

 

[Sindatur]

Jem could heal anything, so, I'm sure she could probably heal fatal injuries, though it would likely kill her.

She was truly, truly outrageous.

Ha! Well-played!

'It's Showtime Synergy!'

I knew whichever way I spelled it, I'd get it wrong

Well played indeed