Data compression.
Irrelevant. Those are scientific measurements and coordinates not pixels or sounds that can only be compressed because you tolerate some degradation at the threshold of your perception.
Data compression.
In the TNG episode Unnatural Selection (where they fix up Pulaski using the transporter), they don't explicitly say it, but the way they talk about it makes me think they could create someone from just a pattern, but it would just be a lifeless body.
That seems to be basically what Picard says to Holo-Moriarty as well about why he can't live outside of the holodeck.
A valid and key point, but again we are discussing silly psuedo-science created to conform to budget constraints. I am perfectly fine with the transporter - it works, its distinctive, but it has some serious issues that apparently "in-universe" have been solved but in reality would be rather fatal to the concept.Data compression.
Irrelevant. Those are scientific measurements and coordinates not pixels or sounds that can only be compressed because you tolerate some degradation at the threshold of your perception.
It seems to me that Picard just said to Moriarty whatever he wanted to hear to make him agree to be put back into storage indefinitely which in the end is exactly what they did to him. I wonder what happened to the moriarty box when Entreprise D crashed. Did they bother retrieving it?
In the TNG episode Unnatural Selection (where they fix up Pulaski using the transporter), they don't explicitly say it, but the way they talk about it makes me think they could create someone from just a pattern, but it would just be a lifeless body.
That seems to be basically what Picard says to Holo-Moriarty as well about why he can't live outside of the holodeck.
That's pretty much exactly how the holodecks were posited to work in the TNG tech manual. Things you touch are physically real, but basically puppets and props. Replicated food too, but no one talks about that in Voyager much. The things you see and don't touch are meant to be light projections basically. (Photonics)
True, they call them photonics on Voyager but on the enterprise when Wesley leaves the holodeck after having plunged into water, he remains wet.
I suppose the computer was distracted and didn't notice he left the holodeck![]()
True, they call them photonics on Voyager but on the enterprise when Wesley leaves the holodeck after having plunged into water, he remains wet.
The science of consciousness is still "in development."
I hear it arrives Tuesday.
So I was really thinking about this yesterday. What is "you." Setting aside for a moment this idea of a spirit. It seems clear that "you" are not any individual component of your body. So how much could be removed before you stopped being you? If I split you physically in half both sides still living and thinking which one would be you?
If you were disassembled cell by cell until half of you was gone and then that half reassembled in another location. you would have the same situation, split i n two. Then what if the other half the transported the same way. You are now whole again but are you still you? Is the necessity for being considered "you" just the presence of a contiguous thought process?
This topic is so bizarre.
About holodecks:
There was the snowball thrown out of the holodeck that hit Picard. There were those characters that left the holodeck and slowly disappears starting at the feet.
well isnt your psyche set like at a ridiculous young age : my point at some point in aging doesnt your brain just become a storage of useless junkIf you are nothing but a product of your combined genetics, experiences, influences and memories, then an identical living copy, regardless if fully "original" or not, should contain just as much of the uniqueness of what makes you *you*.... your essence, the important parts of individuality.... survive surely.
If the first copy made of someone after he's been disintegrated is really him then what of the second copy?If you are nothing but a product of your combined genetics, experiences, influences and memories, then an identical living copy, regardless if fully "original" or not, should contain just as much of the uniqueness of what makes you *you*.... your essence, the important parts of individuality.... survive surely.
i would like to say very excited about the calibre of discussion on this topic : i know its kind of a light hearted topic but take time and read theough it if you havent there are some really great posts from people
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