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Transformers: Dark of the Moon - Discuss, Grading, Reviews (SPOILERS)

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Re: Transformers: Dark of the Moon - Discuss, Grading, Reviews (SPOILE

Jeez, some people are easily impressed. Can't think of another explanation to why this steaming pile of shite is getting good votes in this thread. The movie was an abomination, I can't even put into words how bad this movie was. One of the worst 'blockbusters' I have ever seen. Makes me shudder just thinking about what I had witnessed. Anyone thinking of watching this I'd advise to save your money and wait a few years when they show it for free on the telly.
 
Re: Transformers: Dark of the Moon - Discuss, Grading, Reviews (SPOILE

My vote: average.

Do I really have to be the asshole that mentions on page five on a board full of nerds that the ascent stage of the LEM was still attached to the descent stage when the Autobots went to the moon in the present day section of the movie? Really? And was with showing the ausronauts being on board the Command Module lying down in their seats intercut with the footage of the LEM landing on the moon, surely they weren't implying the CM and LEM are the same spacecraft?

Anyway, rant over. DotM is better that RotF, but like others have noted, that's really not saying much. The acting was wooden at best, dialogue was dreadful, spoken lines were hard to understand, though I did like Leonard Nimoy and all the Spock references spread throughout the film, John Malkovich and Ken Jeong basically playing his character in The Hangover again. I also liked seeing Alan Tudyk and John Turturro again, even though they were wasted talent on a movie like this. The visuals were pretty as usual, and this being the first film I've seen since Avatar the 3D effects were awesome, though again my eyes were suffering from sensory overload by the end of the movie, which probably means this will be the last movie I will pay extra for to get my eyesight ruined.
 
Re: Transformers: Dark of the Moon - Discuss, Grading, Reviews (SPOILE

Jeez, some people are easily impressed.

Anyone thinking of watching this I'd advise to save your money and wait a few years when they show it for free on the telly.

Those easily impressed will always have more to enjoy than those who aren't.

Never be shown on TV in 3D for free.
 
Re: Transformers: Dark of the Moon - Discuss, Grading, Reviews (SPOILE

I think in the interest of fairness, a little more balanced analysis is needed after my earlier post.

Pros:
- 3D is excellent
- Special effects/action sequences are excellent
- The score is pretty good
- As a childhood Transformers fan I do get a kick out of seeing Optimus doing his thing in glorious "lifelike" detail
- As a Trekkie I liked all the little nods to Star Trek, and of course, Nimoy as the voice of Sentinel Prime

Cons:
- The plot was a convoluted mess
- The acting sucked. Every single one of the actors was poor.
- The human characters sucked. Horribly wooden, forgettable characters.
- The forced humour was lame. Even worse than the previous movie. Did not raise a smile once.
- Sam was utterly annoying. All he did was scream throughout the movie. His screaming was more ear-piercing than all the explosions, the big, shrieking, woman. Oh, and the story involving his job problems and then obtaining a job, working with total weirdos was totally cringeworthy
- What was the point of Carly? Why must Sam bag himself another hot model girlfriend? She can't act, she was utterly dreadful.
- The 'romance' plot of the movie was completely pointless, embarrassing and consumed so much time. Sam's love-life was never given this much emphasis in the previous movies so why now? It was simply awful, especially considering the couple had no chemistry whatsoever.
- I am not an American. I don't whoop and cheer when the US military boys are out blowing shit up on screen. I find it ludicrous that the brave US military saves the world yet again. I know the target audience is mainly American and Bay is trying to appeal to the more denser viewers from his homeland but I am not one of them thus I don't find the US patriotic stuff interesting at all. In fact, I find it patronising. How are these mere mortal men, even though they are mighty Americans, able to defeat giant alien robots who have tech millions of years more advanced?
- Sam killing Starscream? Jesus Christ....
- Simmons is now completely annoying
- More irritating little robots. They are not funny, they serve no purpose but to annoy the viewers. Why doesn't Bay see this?
- Who were the two robots at the launch site? And why does one of them have a Scottish accent? Yet more unfunny, pointless robots.
- "We are not alone, are we?" Er, no you're not. But then you should already know that since you have a big alien robot stashed away beneath the Hoover dam.
- Sam's mum and dad. Irritating and unfunny once again. Thankfully they had less screen time in this movie.
- The running time. I was wondering when it would end. In fact, I was begging for it.

And there's a few more cons I can't be bothered to type in at the moment.
 
Re: Transformers: Dark of the Moon - Discuss, Grading, Reviews (SPOILE

I am not an American. I don't whoop and cheer when the US military boys are out blowing shit up on screen. I find it ludicrous that the brave US military saves the world yet again. I know the target audience is mainly American and Bay is trying to appeal to the more denser viewers from his homeland but I am not one of them thus I don't find the US patriotic stuff interesting at all. In fact, I find it patronising. How are these mere mortal men, even though they are mighty Americans, able to defeat giant alien robots who have tech millions of years more advanced?
I found TF: Dark of the Moon to be far less jingoistic than Armageddon or Pearl Harbor. Maybe Bay needs an injection of Patriotic Viagra, maybe Tim Pawlenty stole the Patriotic Mojo from Bay (no, really), but I really thought that Bay toned down his typical "Rah-Rah! America rules!" schtick.

I was completely unmoved by the military's attempt to take back Chicago, because it was so utterly pointless; the release of the heavy metals and refined chemicals that go into building the Autobots and Decepticons when they're destroyed would leave the city uninhabitable for decades, if not centuries, so any victory over the Decepticons would be a Pyrrhic victory. The simpler solution would have been a tactical nuclear strike on the city's core to take out the Decepticon base since the city was already abandoned. That would have made a more interesting film -- stay in the halls of power, follow the National Security team, sci-fi political thriller territory, really.
 
Re: Transformers: Dark of the Moon - Discuss, Grading, Reviews (SPOILE

^The robots at the launch site were the Wreckers. Like the Fallen, they are part of the Transformers comics and didn't appear in the animated series (yet).
 
Re: Transformers: Dark of the Moon - Discuss, Grading, Reviews (SPOILE

I too did notice the ascent stage of the LEM at the moon site, obviously put back there by the Historical Sticklers Society. ;)
 
Re: Transformers: Dark of the Moon - Discuss, Grading, Reviews (SPOILE

I think in the interest of fairness, a little more balanced analysis is needed after my earlier post.

Completely agreed on every one of your points. Yeah there might have been some good moments here and there (Bumblebee's midair transformation on the freeway and Optimus walking around on the moon I thought were especially cool), but you could have found some of those in the 2nd movie as well.

I just don't see how this was much of an improvement at all. The final city battle might have been easier to follow than the Egypt battle, but it still involved a bunch of characters and robots I didn't give a shit about. And it certainly couldn't make up for all the OTHER awful, annoying crap in this movie.
 
Re: Transformers: Dark of the Moon - Discuss, Grading, Reviews (SPOILE

an anti-armour weapon is an anti-armour weapon whether it's hitting alien metal or a tank.
 
Re: Transformers: Dark of the Moon - Discuss, Grading, Reviews (SPOILE

It was pretty much what I expected ... an absolute mess of a story with a bunch of eye candy. Thankfully, it made far more sense than Revenge of the Fallen, and the 3D was incredibly well-done.

There's also something to be said for taking the "give me your face" Optimus from Revenge of the Fallen and just straight-out turning him into this bloodthirsty, death on rollerskates psychopath. :lol:

My wife says that we would have wasted our money if we hadn't seen it in 3D, and I'm inclined to agree.
 
Re: Transformers: Dark of the Moon - Discuss, Grading, Reviews (SPOILE

The 3D really was worth-while and I've not said that about a movie since Avatar.

I did think the "battle tactics" of the Autobots (the good guys) were questionable, they ask an out-matched group of Decepticons to lay down arms and surrender, which they do, and then the Autobots slaughter them! Optimus Prime our "hero" and great leader sees his mentor, a fellow Prime, beaten, weak and broken and also unarmed and then completely rips the guy apart! Either action is hardly great qualities for a great leader.

I still think the movies hadn't focused nearly enough on the Transformers who are still pretty much seconday-characters in their own damn movies, and the, well, nonsense with Shia is just completely un-needed and in this movie I'm not sure there's an ounce of likability in him.

Still, it was fun and actually entertaining and it drive me insane like the previous movie.
 
Re: Transformers: Dark of the Moon - Discuss, Grading, Reviews (SPOILE

He ripped apart Megatron (with an axe), when it came to his beaten and unarmed mentor all he did was finish him off with the final shot.

You have to remember that he was also a traitor who betrayed not only Optimus and the Autobots (both alive and dead) but he murdered Ironhide and walked all over everything he taught Optimus using the excuse of "The needs of the many..."

As for Ironhide and Sideswipe taking on those Decepticons, yes all 4 of them dropped their weapons but then the Decepticons attacked them, cant blame the Autobots for besting them.
 
Re: Transformers: Dark of the Moon - Discuss, Grading, Reviews (SPOILE

I still think the movies hadn't focused nearly enough on the Transformers who are still pretty much seconday-characters in their own damn movies, and the, well, nonsense with Shia is just completely un-needed and in this movie I'm not sure there's an ounce of likability in him.

Well I thought it kinda made sense in the first movie to see things more from the perspective of the human characters, to help make it feel a bit more real and grounded for the audience.

But by THIS point it's just getting ridiculous. Most of the last two movies have been taken up with stupid comedy or watching people run around run solving boring mysteries. The Transformers do nothing dish out exposition or fight each other, and barely come across as real characters at all.
 
Re: Transformers: Dark of the Moon - Discuss, Grading, Reviews (SPOILE

Well, as the old song goes, "Autobots wage the battle to destroy the evil forces of the Decepticons ;)
 
Re: Transformers: Dark of the Moon - Discuss, Grading, Reviews (SPOILE

Rating it Above Average. I liked it better then the second one since it tried be different in tone, and take the story to a darker place, with a waster scale. But that's also where I find some it went a bit askew.

I see what they want to do with the darker edge, but sometimes they just went too far. Some of the robots literally tearing each other apart I could have done without, but most importantly, the quite graphic killings if humans I was quite shocked to see. It really teetered on the line with Decepticons shot people and they where blown apart, if in unfocused unidentifiable shreds. But then the last bit with that where some people got shot and there where some bones and a skull quite visible lying around...took it a bit too far for my taste.

Look, I quite like gore and violence. When it's appropriate. Like in a Zombie film or a Medieval hack n' slash flick. But in the films based on toys? Really? A lot of kids are gonna see this and I think some bits are too intense for them. I see the point they tried to make, and while I applaud Bay for taking a bit of a risk, I still think he could have made his point in another way and that he should've considered his target audience more.


Okay, moving on. FANTASTIC 3D. Best I've seen since Avatar. Bay really gets how to use it well. Also liked that he action was more clear this time around, and the new robots had great designs, even if I would've like to see more of Shockwave. But Soundwave was great, with a fantastic vehicle mode. Nimoy did great as Sentinel Prime and while he's obviously a douche, still brings some definition to the character.

Speaking of douches, I gotta mention the Dempsey. I'm a Grey's Anatomy fan, so I know Patrick Dempsey mostly as that series freaking saint of a brain surgeon, Derek Shepard. Which is why casting him as the biggest opportunistic and cowardly asshole in the movie was great. Love that he took the part and he's really great at it, you really hate the guy. Alan Tudyk was a delight as Simmons' butler/manservant/assistant/bodyguard.

Rosie Huntington-Whiteley did a much better job then I had dared to hope, and distinguished herself well enough from Megan Fox. Still think the latter is sexier, but it works.

Shia is a great, I think he's the actor that's been consistently great in these films. Granted, his wigouts in this film are a bit on the energetic side, I can't help but laugh my ass off at his girly scream after the whole flying transformation bit on the highway :guffaw: And he does the serious stuff damned well also, and he finally got to actually take down a Decepticon himself.


In the end the one I really have problems with is the aforementioned "darker bits". The first Transformers had a great tone, it was a great movie overall. It was the most fun I'd had a the theater since Jurassic Park. And a big bit of that is because it hit the right kind of tone between good old fun and seriousness. This one tries to stray a bit too far into the latter, and it hurts the movie a bit.



Still, very well spent money.
 
Re: Transformers: Dark of the Moon - Discuss, Grading, Reviews (SPOILE

A lot of kids are gonna see this and I think some bits are too intense for them.

The violence offends me in a movie for kids just as much as the blatantly disgusting misogyny, and thinly veiled racism.
 
Re: Transformers: Dark of the Moon - Discuss, Grading, Reviews (SPOILE

If there is a fourth movie, can the writers do a different kind of story? The robots battle over a piece of technology, while the humans assist or hide.

And how can the Autobots hope to protect Earth as their numbers are decreasing? During the Battle of Chicago, two (out of nine) Autobots were destroyed. (I don't know if this higher number includes the smaller robots which were last seen in a fighter carrier.) Where are the rest of the Autobots?

Can someone explain to me please how these giant robots were able to fit inside a booster rocket?

And, the humans may have prevailed in Chicago. However, they have to fight the rest of the Depticons in all the other locations seen or inferred. This last fact seems to have been missed or ignored by the script writer, along with many other things.
 
Re: Transformers: Dark of the Moon - Discuss, Grading, Reviews (SPOILE

Yeah the whole "uh... we hid in the booster rocket" thing didn't make any sense. I mean, there's rocket fuel and important rockety things in there, not much room for several huge robots.

I did think the mostly gratuitous killing/vaporizing of humans wasa bit too much but, whatever.

But, damn. Leave it to Michael Fucking Bay to do the first decent 3D movie since James Cameron.
 
Re: Transformers: Dark of the Moon - Discuss, Grading, Reviews (SPOILE

Well, he had James Cameron's help, so no surprise there.
 
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