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Townsend and Child Porn?

^^ then that would also make him guilty!!!!


I need another drink..................and it's only 10:30am.
 
Who doesn't know going on a child porn site is against the law?

Who doesn't know child porn is a zero tolerance policy with law enforcement?

Townsend admitted he broke the law by accessing the site.

Uhhh no. That's not the way the law works.
Right, confessing you broke the law isn't an admission of guilt. :rolleyes:


As any Judge or competent lawyer will state: "Ignorance of the Law is no excuse."
 
Townshend has admitted no guilt and has not been shown to be guilty in any system of law.

You're judging him and convicting him in your mind based on little to nothing to go on.

At the time, Townshend issued a statement that was pretty clear cut on the issue:

http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/europe/05/07/uk.townshend/index.html

I accept that I was wrong to access this site, and that by doing so, I broke the law, and I have accepted the caution that the police have given me.

I'm not sure how you interpret the statement "I broke the law" but most people would take that to be an admission of guilt.
 
^It's an admission of accessing the site. It is not an admission of being a paedophile. You all do see the difference, right ?
 
Tell you what.
Why don't you go log onto a kiddie porn site, charge it to your credit card and when the police come to take you away, you can tell them that you're innocent because you were just doing it to prove a point.

Then we can know for sure who's guilty and who isn't.

Sound fair?
 
Do you know what an accessory to a crime is?

Do you know what the concept of innocent until proven guilty is ? As far as I'm concerned, the people trying to prevent Townshend from performing are false accusers and false accusers belong in jail.
 
Do you know what an accessory to a crime is?

Do you know what the concept of innocent until proven guilty is ? As far as I'm concerned, the people trying to prevent Townshend from performing are false accusers and false accusers belong in jail.
Yep, I also know what an admission of guilt is too.
So when said someone admits to being guilty, that means they aren't innocent. He confessed in his own words for going on a site he shouldn't have. It was controversial enough for the publisher to drop the book deal.

So false accusers are more of a crime to you than child pornographers?
We on a message board should be in jail for understanding the law?
 
Do you know what an accessory to a crime is?

Do you know what innocent until proven guilty is ?

A police caution is not a trial.

Since I have never heard of this story until yesterday, hence the OP, I have one question. I take Pete as his word that he was investigating this issue for a book and to help try and stop it. But did his efforts to try and stop it start there? Or had he spoken on this topic before, and, more importantly, is he still trying to help stop it?

I actually think the guy is innocent. But last night someone on TV compared him to OJ, who claims to be still looking for the murderer of his ex-wife; but you could hardly tell. (especially since he is in jail anyway)...But before OJ landed in jail, I didn't really ever see him 'searching for her killer' as he claimed he would...

Rob
 
Its abhorrent to the very bone that these sites exist and frankly anybody viewing them never mind entering credit card details has some serious serious issues.
 
Do you know what an accessory to a crime is?

Do you know what the concept of innocent until proven guilty is ? As far as I'm concerned, the people trying to prevent Townshend from performing are false accusers and false accusers belong in jail.
Yep, I also know what an admission of guilt is too.
So when said someone admits to being guilty, that means they aren't innocent.

The way you talk, he admitted to being responsible for the holocaust, the Kennedy assassination and shooting Mr. Burns. He admitted one specific thing, not this general "guilt" you seem to think he has.

Accepting a police caution for accessing a website is not the same as admitting being a paedophile. If he had admitted anything more than accessing a website he would be in jail. You don't get police cautions for what you and others are accusing him of.
 
What Townshend did was stupid and illegal, he has committed a crime by his own admittance and was cautioned appropriately. That it never made it to trial is irrelevant considering he has openly admitted to the act for which he was cautioned.

But I do not think it was malicious in intent, it was a silly mistake and probably fueled by good intentions. But we all know what they say about good intentions.
 
I actually think the guy is innocent. But last night someone on TV compared him to OJ, who claims to be still looking for the murderer of his ex-wife; but you could hardly tell. (especially since he is in jail anyway)...But before OJ landed in jail, I didn't really ever see him 'searching for her killer' as he claimed he would...

OJ Simpson, like it or not, was found not guilty in a court of law by a jury of his peers. Others might think he killed his wife, but a common feature of both of our justice systems is that prosecutors have to prove their case. In this case, they did not.

With any other system, it becomes even easier than it is now to ruin another person's life with false accusations.
 
Do you know what the concept of innocent until proven guilty is ? As far as I'm concerned, the people trying to prevent Townshend from performing are false accusers and false accusers belong in jail.
Yep, I also know what an admission of guilt is too.
So when said someone admits to being guilty, that means they aren't innocent.

The way you talk, he admitted to being responsible for the holocaust, the Kennedy assassination and shooting Mr. Burns. He admitted one specific thing, not this general "guilt" you seem to think he has.

Accepting a police caution for accessing a website is not the same as admitting being a paedophile. If he had admitted anything more than accessing a website he would be in jail. You don't get police cautions for what you and others are accusing him of.
So like I said, why don't you log onto a child porn site, charge it to your credit card and prove me wrong.

Holocaust
Kennedy assassination
Shooting Mr. Burns :wtf:

I don't think I need to say another word.
That crazy talk just won my case for me.
 
So like I said, why don't you log onto a child porn site, charge it to your credit card and prove me wrong.

Because I wouldn't know where to start ? Because I don't want a police caution or my name on a sex offender's register ?

I have not said that what Townshend admits to doing is not illegal (even if whether or not he actually did it is questionable).

As far as I am concerned, however, anyone who makes the leap in logic to assume that Townshend is actually a paedophile is a false accuser, a far worse crime than anything Townshend did.
 
So like I said, why don't you log onto a child porn site, charge it to your credit card and prove me wrong.

Because I wouldn't know where to start ? Because I don't want a police caution or my name on a sex offender's register ?

I have not said that what Townshend admits to doing is not illegal (even if whether or not he actually did it is questionable).

As far as I am concerned, however, anyone who makes the leap in logic to assume that Townshend is actually a paedophile is a false accuser, a far worse crime than anything Townshend did.

Apparently he is paying for his crime because I have never heard of it, and only heard of it, when it came out that the WHO will be at the superbowl, and the American authorities are considering to require him to register as a sex-offender. I wonder if it was explained to him that this sort of action might happen.

Rob
 
So like I said, why don't you log onto a child porn site, charge it to your credit card and prove me wrong.

Because I wouldn't know where to start ? Because I don't want a police caution or my name on a sex offender's register ?

I have not said that what Townshend admits to doing is not illegal (even if whether or not he actually did it is questionable).

As far as I am concerned, however, anyone who makes the leap in logic to assume that Townshend is actually a paedophile is a false accuser, a far worse crime than anything Townshend did.
:rolleyes:

You also consider the "murder" of a cartoon character (Mr. Burns)equal to that of the Holocaust. Anything you say now is nothing more than a joke.
 
Apparently he is paying for his crime because I have never heard of it, and only heard of it, when it came out that the WHO will be at the superbowl, and the American authorities are considering to require him to register as a sex-offender. I wonder if it was explained to him that this sort of action might happen.

Rob

I suspect he considered the possibility. He was naive to access the site in the first place and apparently still naive enough not to consider the depths false accusers will stoop to.
 
You also consider the "murder" of a cartoon character (Mr. Burns)equal to that of the Holocaust. Anything you say now is nothing more than a joke.

Yes, of course I do. :rolleyes:

Or, perhaps, I just don't take the opinions of false accusers too seriously.
 
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