Total Recall - Recalled...
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Originality is D.E.A.D. in Hollyweird! First it was an ALIEN prequal, now THIS! when will it END!?
*trick question, it wont*
Eh...I'd see it.
There has never been a time when Hollywood hasn't had remakes and adaptations as a large part of its repertoire. The majority of the most acclaimed and successful movies ever made are adaptations from other media (The Wizard of Oz, West Side Story, etc.), and some are remakes of earlier films (e.g. Ben Hur). For that matter, virtually all of Shakespeare's plays were remakes of older stories. What defines originality isn't the source, it's the execution. There are countless movies that have new titles and new character names but just rehash the same old derivative plots.
Total Recall is profoundly unlike the Philip K. Dick story it's based on. If this movie were based more closely on "We Can Remember It for You Wholesale," then it wouldn't just be a rehash of the same story, not by a long shot.
I am wondering what they mean by a "contemporized adaptation," though. Does that mean it'll be set in the present instead of the future? Or do they mean it'll have a more contemporary style but still be set in the future?
Total Recall is profoundly unlike the Philip K. Dick story it's based on. If this movie were based more closely on "We Can Remember It for You Wholesale," then it wouldn't just be a rehash of the same story, not by a long shot.
I am wondering what they mean by a "contemporized adaptation," though. Does that mean it'll be set in the present instead of the future? Or do they mean it'll have a more contemporary style but still be set in the future?
Anyone want to place the odds on this being PG-13?
MeanJoePhaser
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Hollywood = "We Can Remake It for You Wholesale"
Probably will be. Bastards are doing it to all the good movies that were originally rated R when they remake or sequel them. They've drained the 80's of movies to remake so they have moved onto movies from the early 90's. They remake them as PG-13 so they can market toys to kids.
How I thoug Myers was mortal and DEAD in the remake.
Oh and can the Total Recall guys at least keep this in the new one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wN-bXc1w6Dc&feature=related
^ Nope, Michael's back (played by Tyler Mane again as well). Loomis is back too.
Website for H2
More into the psychology of Michael Myers. The trailer suggests that Michael has been seeing the spirit of his dead mother and she's telling him to kill people so they can be together again.
Website for H2
It's people like you that are the problem!
Tell ME which franchises they have ''drained'' the 80's from? besides terminator 4? Rambo 4 R, The Halloween, Friday the 13th, Nightmare on Elm street, and many others ALL got the R rating. It just seams to me that a lot of people say HWood is making all these great franchises PG-13 ratings when in fact the only 80's franchise I know of getting a PG-13 was AVP, & a R rating would not have saved it! (look at AVP:R)
I thought the violence was the most expendable part of Total Recall. When I saw it on TV with a lot of the more gratuitous violence cut out, I thought it didn't hurt the film at all, aside from disrupting the flow of the music. The problem with the film is that Verhoeven was going for a Hitchcockian thriller, but he used graphic violence to an extent Hitchcock never would have. Hitchcock understood subtlety, a concept that eludes Verhoeven. So the movie has an oddly schizoid quality, succeeding at evoking a Hitchcockian flavor much of the time but totally losing it whenever the bullets and blood start flying.
As I said, Dick's original story was almost completely unlike Total Recall. For one thing, its main character was a small, timid man named Quail. The project was totally revamped when Schwarzenegger came aboard. It is the film it is because it was tailored to the man. So it would be a mistake to try to remake it as the same kind of over-the-top action movie. Better to go back to the beginnings, either the Dick story or the early, very different drafts of the movie, and develop something that's more faithful to those or that branches off from them in a new direction.
As I said, Dick's original story was almost completely unlike Total Recall. For one thing, its main character was a small, timid man named Quail. The project was totally revamped when Schwarzenegger came aboard. It is the film it is because it was tailored to the man. So it would be a mistake to try to remake it as the same kind of over-the-top action movie. Better to go back to the beginnings, either the Dick story or the early, very different drafts of the movie, and develop something that's more faithful to those or that branches off from them in a new direction.
It's people like you that are the problem!
Tell ME which franchises they have ''drained'' the 80's from? besides terminator 4? Rambo 4 R, The Halloween, Friday the 13th, Nightmare on Elm street, and many others ALL got the R rating. It just seams to me that a lot of people say HWood is making all these great franchises PG-13 ratings when in fact the only 80's franchise I know of getting a PG-13 was AVP, & a R rating would not have saved it! (look at AVP:R)
Two things: First, I meant they were taking movies and shows from the 80's to remake but have pretty much tapped the resource for the time being and moved onto the 90's for stuff to repackage (and yes, this is Hollywood, but it's lazy even for them). Instead of coming up with something that takes some effort to appear original or new, they just take a title of something well known from the 80's and capitalize on it. Star Wars was a remake of several classic movies and stories but it was at least original in it's attempt.
Second, the trend is to take anything they can market to children and resell it in a PG-13 or less format. Rambo toys probably wouldn't sell in today's PC climate with guns being a no-no (nor do I suspect would Freddy, Jason or Michael Myers slasher toys) but the Terminator obviously can be judging by the numerous toys I've seen being shilled. Not all the remakes/adaptations were R to begin with but some clearly got reduced ratings purely for merchandising to kids. Kids aren't as likely to be able to see an R-rated movie as a PG-13 one either.
Also, not all of these have been remade but are at the very least on track to be (If necessary I can find a source to cite on most of these as actually in some level of production) and there are several cartoons being adapted into movies (which were obviously targeted as merchandising the first time around). This may take some time...: TMNT, Mad Max, He-Man, GI-Joe, Transformers, Fright Night, Footloose, Drop Dead Fred, Monster Squad, Clue, Stephen King's It, RoboCop, Missing In Action, The Blob, Short Circuit, Pirahna, Adventures in Babysitting, Evil Dead, Phantasm, Escape From New York, Re-Animator, Karate Kid, Breakfast Club, Conan, Rocky Horror Picture Show...
I think you get the idea. And I'm kind of tired of dredging the past 3-4 years of archives on what movies are in the works to be remade. Obviously not all will be remade, but my point that they're milking the 80's should still be sufficiently made.
