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Toshiba Dumps HD-DVD

why so excited about this, and why start several thread over several forums?

I really don't get why people feel invested in taking 'sides' in this whole thing. It's not an Us vs Them thing, BOTH sides are trying to screw you over. To prefer one over the other is silly...
 
^ Now that the format war is over, we can get more films on high definition disc. The war was preventing widespread adoption of the format.

And I don't see anyone getting 'screwed over' here anyway.
 
more than anything, the PRICE is preventing widespread adoption. That, and the fact that both sides rushed their product to try and beat out the other guy to market, so there's not as much improvement compared to what was touted when the standards were announced. Blu-Ray is such high capacity, where are all the special features, the different camera angles, etc? Why are they trying to finish the standard now, and telling us that profile 1 players aren't going to be able to take full advantage of new discs?

Why are players $399+?

Yeah, the "War" was the only thing stopping people from rebuying everything... :lol:
 
The only annoying part for me is that I have a Toshiba laptop with, you guessed it, an HD-DVD burner.

At least the backup media will be cheap as hell now.
 
on the other hand, they'll make a blu-ray module you can put in there eventually to upgrade to the "winning" standard...
 
Scout101 said:
on the other hand, they'll make a blu-ray module you can put in there eventually to upgrade to the "winning" standard...

From your fingers to Toshiba's ears, because goddess knows after the Mac experiment I've spent enough on computers in the last 2 years.
 
The Squire of Gothos said:
How did all this happen? Why did anyone support HD-DVD in the first place?

I happened to have the misfortune of replacing the dead Mac that Applecare wanted to extort money from me to repair with a Toshiba that has HD-DVD built in.
 
it's a laptop, so has to have standard connections. Since Toshiba isn't supporting HD-DVD anymore, they'll almost certainly release a blu-ray module at some point that should fit your system. Can't imagine it'll be cheap, but still just like buying any other laptop replacement part. They won't skip the HD possibilities for laptops out of spite...
 
With 720p HDTV's only, some 500 DVD's and being a Wii and xbox house, nothing's going to happen anytime soon.
 
I see that Toshiba were paying studios for the cost of converting films to HD-DVD, so it was basically a matter of when this bribery would be outdone by sales of Blu-ray.
 
The Squire of Gothos said:
I see that Toshiba were paying studios for the cost of converting films to HD-DVD, so it was basically a matter of when this bribery would be outdone by sales of Blu-ray.

I'm happy Blu-Ray one, as that's what I went with back in 2006 when I went HD - butr to be fair, BOTH sides were offering maor incentives to go 'exclusive'. But getting Disney to go 100% Blu-Ray probably helped more than anything. Had Warner gone HD-DVD; we'd probably see Toshiba crowing victory.
 
Both early adopters lost in this one. HD-DVD buyers lost because their format is going away. Blu-ray buyers will lose because the Blu-ray standard wasn't finished and the early profile 1.0 players will be obsolete in about a year.
 
Brolan said:Blu-ray buyers will lose because the Blu-ray standard wasn't finished and the early profile 1.0 players will be obsolete in about a year.

That only matters if you care about extras, which I don't.

Profiles are irrelevant for the actual movie itself. For that purpose, every Blu-Ray disc ever made will play on every player ever made.
 
The biggest problem any next-gen format has is the industry's tiresome and paranoid obsession with DRM.

I confidently predict that one day every net-attached Blu-Ray player will receive a copy protection update that will render it unusable.

It really is time for the industry to wake up and smell the daisies on DRM - whatever they do it WILL get hacked.

Their best bet is to supply an excellent, usable product, publicly state their support for fair use (frak them telling me I cannot make a copy of a CD for my car) and allow honest record and film buyers to get the product they want to use when they want to.

The digital age does NOT mean another boom of people re-buying their old collections, it is only unbelievable industry greed that says it should, as they want more free money like in the early nineties CD boom and the early noughties DVD boom.

Sadly the question is when rather than if the copy protection starts to give serious black marks for blu-ray. At the end of the day HD film downloads will win, not a solid state format.
 
Re: Paramount Dumps HD-DVD

^ So what happens when a Profile 2.0 BD refuses to load on players that are not network-attached? Once the warranty agreements on current Profile 1.0 and 1.1 players expire the Blu-ray Disc Association studios will be under no obligation to make their new BDs compatible with older devices.

TGT
 
USS KG5 said:
The biggest problem any next-gen format has is the industry's tiresome and paranoid obsession with DRM.

I confidently predict that one day every net-attached Blu-Ray player will receive a copy protection update that will render it unusable.

It really is time for the industry to wake up and smell the daisies on DRM - whatever they do it WILL get hacked.

Their best bet is to supply an excellent, usable product, publicly state their support for fair use (frak them telling me I cannot make a copy of a CD for my car) and allow honest record and film buyers to get the product they want to use when they want to.

The digital age does NOT mean another boom of people re-buying their old collections, it is only unbelievable industry greed that says it should, as they want more free money like in the early nineties CD boom and the early noughties DVD boom.

Sadly the question is when rather than if the copy protection starts to give serious black marks for blu-ray. At the end of the day HD film downloads will win, not a solid state format.

Can I just say, that was a bloody good post. I completely agree with everything you said.

Me; I'm sticking with my SD copies. Can't afford anything HD yet, and I work with HD material every day so it's not like I'm missing out or anything...
 
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