TOS Trims on YouTube

[Maurice]

I apologize if this has been discussed previously, but when I was looking at this compilation of TOS trims (which do not have sound), I noticed a few interesting things, including an alernate effect for The Man Trap's Salt Vampire transformation (Nancy fades away completely and then the creature fades in).

There's also a priceless bit of George Takei going all flutter eyed.

For them's who haven't seen it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWG7xdKy0Bs

EDIT: A second one...you can actually see the unsued start of the fight of Kirk and Thelev from Journey to Babel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6GWqrpneAo

 

[alchemist]

These have been around for a while, but I always like looking at them. Thanks for bringing them back up.

These videos are likely from transfers of 35mm workprints and are minus the magnetic audio film that accompanied them. It bugs me, though, that both of them start with "Rescued From the Cutting Room Floor." That misinformation keeps getting passed around and is simply not true. It gives the impression that the film editors of Trek discarded their film strips to the floor when they were finished cutting. So not true.

 

[idreamedmusic]

Thank you for linking those! Never seen them before.
Anyone who can lip read?

 

[evil bob m]

Man, I love watching stuff like that; outtakes, trims, etc. I just wish this material could be collected on a DVD or something.

 

[Maurice]

^^^The Cutting Room Floor is conventional film lingo for material that didn't make it into the final product.

 

[alchemist]

^^^The Cutting Room Floor is conventional film lingo for material that didn't make it into the final product.

Thanks, but two points:

1. As I mentioned above, "cutting room floor" gives the impression that the film is literally swept off the floor. I can't tell you the number of people that I've talked to who really believe this. As I said, it is not true. Film editors are far more professional than this.

2. Technically, and as generally used in the modern vernacular, the phrase "cutting room floor" refers to deleted scenes. Although these videos do show a few deleted scenes, they also bloopers, clapper board shots, alternate takes, etc. - clearly not deleted scenes.

 

[saint-antoine]

Does anyone have these on DVD ?

 

[Maurice]

^^^If we're being accurate, technically, trims like these are more likely to have actually hi the floor than a deleted scene ever would.

 

[Oso Blanco]

As I mentioned above, "cutting room floor" gives the impression that the film is literally swept off the floor. I can't tell you the number of people that I've talked to who really believe this.

There will always be people who take metaphors literally, so what. I think most people do know what the phrase means, though. Including me, and English isn't even my native language.

 

[alchemist]

As I mentioned above, "cutting room floor" gives the impression that the film is literally swept off the floor. I can't tell you the number of people that I've talked to who really believe this.

There will always be people who take metaphors literally, so what. I think most people do know what the phrase means, though. Including me, and English isn't even my native language.

You are right, many people who post on this board may know the modern vernacular. But, I've been buying and selling Trek film and film clips for 35 years now, and many, many folks (probably more than half) start off the haggle with "This item was literally swept off the cutting room floor, that's why there are so many scratches on it..." Thus, a lot of folks simply think that the film was literally thrown on the floor when the editor was done with it. That's not true, and that's the point I was trying to make.