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TOS-R "The Cloud Minders" editing fix?

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Hi guys, I thought the good people at TOS-R fixed the moment in 'The Cloud Minders' right after the title, where Kirk says 'What is the meaning of this attack?!' but his lips don't move.

When I saw this episode in syndication last year, I could have sworn they fixed the mistake by simply cutting to a reverse shot, so you can't see his face when this line is spoken, but I was just watching this ep on Bluray and the editing/dubbing mistake is back again?

Anyone else catch this episode when it aired to confirm/deny that they ever did fix it? Can anyone reach out to Mike Okuda or Dave Rossi to find out what the deal is?
 
cwnorma said:
Now I have to go watch this... I never noticed it before.
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I just watched the BD version a week or so ago, and didn't notice it, but now I remember that the glitch has been mentioned on this forum before.

Doug
 
Yeah, it's there alright... and I'm almost 100% sure they fixed it when doing the remaster, just can't figure out how a different edit could make it to BD than to syndication.
 
Just so long as they don't change the outfit Diana Ewing wore. That in itself is enough to merit watching this episode.
 
I just double-checked a recording I made of the episode back when it aired locally, and sure enough, they substituted a shot of the four captors, with Kirk speaking his line off-screen.

I've been meaning to watch this on Blu-ray, so I guess tonight is as good a time as any. And yes, when I re-watched this episode for the first time since I was a kid, I had to remind myself to breathe after the lovely Miss Ewing's entrance.

- Mark
 
Mark Boeder said:
. . . when I re-watched this episode for the first time since I was a kid, I had to remind myself to breathe after the lovely Miss Ewing's entrance.
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Yes, the masterful William Theiss outdid himself with that costume. I suppose in a completely artificial, climate-controlled environment, you could walk around nearly naked from the waist up without getting cold, and the floor-length skirt wouldn't pick up dirt. The cape looks kind of awkward, though.

http://harperganesvoort.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/droxine-episode.jpg
 
That is really bizarre... I know the stations that syndicate the show have the ability to edit for time but I doubt they edited this mistake out.

Somewhere along the line one 'master' was delivered to stations and another to the guys for the BD encoding.
 
Diana Ewing is one of the few women I first remember seeing when I was a small child that I wish hadn't had to grow old. Time, you are the enemy of us all!
 
^ Time is the fire in which we burn :) [wow never realized how harsh that line really is until I typed it]
 
scotpens said:
Mark Boeder said:
. . . when I re-watched this episode for the first time since I was a kid, I had to remind myself to breathe after the lovely Miss Ewing's entrance.
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Yes, the masterful William Theiss outdid himself with that costume. I suppose in a completely artificial, climate-controlled environment, you could walk around nearly naked from the waist up without getting cold, and the floor-length skirt wouldn't pick up dirt. The cape looks kind of awkward, though.

http://harperganesvoort.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/droxine-episode.jpg
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Perfect demonstration of what became known as "The Theiss Effect" - the sexiness of a woman's outfit is directly proportional to the perception of how close it is to falling off of her.
 
Ziz said:
scotpens said:
Mark Boeder said:
. . . when I re-watched this episode for the first time since I was a kid, I had to remind myself to breathe after the lovely Miss Ewing's entrance.
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Yes, the masterful William Theiss outdid himself with that costume. I suppose in a completely artificial, climate-controlled environment, you could walk around nearly naked from the waist up without getting cold, and the floor-length skirt wouldn't pick up dirt. The cape looks kind of awkward, though.

http://harperganesvoort.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/droxine-episode.jpg
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Perfect demonstration of what became known as "The Theiss Effect" - the sexiness of a woman's outfit is directly proportional to the perception of how close it is to falling off of her.
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Another part of the Theiss Theory of Titillation (patent pending) is that an outfit becomes more interesting when you see parts of the body exposed that you're not accustomed to seeing in a particular kind of outfit. A cute girl in a long sleeve turtleneck, meh, but make that a long sleeve turtleneck with open sides and a couple of open areas in the front and back, suddenly becomes very interesting, even though you're seeing less than if she was wearing a not-very-skimpy bikini.
 
FormerLurker said:
Ah, the reasoning behind the strategic holes in 'Orion Slave Girl' Vina's outfit. Gotta love that one.
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All I know is that when she gives that "dumb, lustful animal" look, it's more effective than it has any business being. I like smart women - the brighter, the better - but there's something about her expression that overrides that and puts me into pure primal mode every time. Damn!

vina.jpg


Sorry, got off-topic there. Ahem.
 
well its depends on what version you were watching was it the remaster or the old footage, but im going to check this out as soon as i can.
 
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