TOS makes me sleepy

[Push The Button]

If you're really having trouble sleeping, I suggest watching TNG seasons one and two, or any episode of Voyager. "Captain, we can solve the problem by modifying the starboard plasma conduit to emit an inverse tachyon pulse that will cause the lateral phase array to go offline just before the warp core ejection sequence is reset by the shift in the aft power coupling field density blah blah blah..." (*yawn*)

 

[BillJ]

Personally, I'd rather watch a show with long takes and old-school editing than one with a lot of fast cutting, made for the generation with the attention span of a housefly.

I can go either way as long as it's well done and keeps my attention.

If you're really having trouble sleeping, I suggest watching TNG seasons one and two...

I actually like seasons one and two better than the rest of Berman Trek.

 

[plynch]

I get sleepy during Mudd's Women, the second half, and That Which Survives.

 

[RandyS]

I love TOS, but I understand that it's not for everyone, especially people with somewhat different expectations due to having watched the other ones first.

Personally, TOS is one of my favorites because I love the characters in it.

Same here.

And, if the OP is going to judge all of TOS by "Miri", and "Conscience of the King", of course he won't like it. Those are two of the series weaker episodes.

I can't wait to hear the OP's opinion of "City on the Edge of Forever", and "And the Children Shall Lead". Two more (at least for me) weak episodes.

 

[The Old Mixer]

If the OP is still looking in, he should know that RandyS's opinion of "City" is pretty much the opposite of the general consensus....

(And if he's made it to "Children", I'm sure he's in for the long haul.)

 

[RandyS]

If the OP is still looking in, he should know that RandyS's opinion of "City" is pretty much the opposite of the general consensus....

Well, for what it's worth, I also really enjoy "The Alternative Factor", and nobody else seems to.

 

[The Old Mixer]

Do you have a goatee, or perhaps a facial scar...?

 

[BillJ]

If the OP is still looking in, he should know that RandyS's opinion of "City" is pretty much the opposite of the general consensus....

Well, for what it's worth, I also really enjoy "The Alternative Factor", and nobody else seems to.

I like City..., but then I also love The Omega Glory.

 

[The Old Mixer]

I don't love "Omega"...but I've never hated it either. It's a middling episode with some memorable stuff in it. Woodward's scenery-chewing and Shatner reciting the Preamble are good, corny fun.

 

[RandyS]

Do you have a goatee, or perhaps a facial scar...?

Nah. Just a love for old sci-fi tales that, admittedly, would have made a better Twilight Zone episode, than Star Trek.

 

[T'Girl]

... the dream of all men working together in common cause for the benefit of Humanity. This show is so hopeful, in that regard.

But that wasn't really TOS, certainly not at the time it was on the air. Roddenberry invented all that while giving lectures on college campuses and appearing at ST conventions during the seventies.

As I understand it, the optimistic future of Star Trek was based upon the simple fact that Humanity survived to that point.

 

[2takesfrakes]

There is more to it than merely having survived ...

Kirk tells Edith Keeler that "one day," meaning, in his time, the people of Earth will no longer spend their resources on death, but rather spend it on life. Watch CITY on the EDGE of FOREVER and it's there, that brief dialogue. That's not to say that GR did not smoke his own publicity and took his "message" to the people about "his" vision for Humanity, but let's face it ... He was not a mere Television Producer, or Series Creator, he was The Great Bird of the Galaxy and TREK fandom encouraged him to project that. By the time TNG came around, though, it probably came too late for him to reap a rich harvest from it. He was old and stuck in his ways and he started pushing close associates away, because of it. And all those adoring fans rewarded him with much more love than money. Whether he was satisfied with that, who knew?

 

[T'Girl]

Kirk tells Edith Keeler that "one day," meaning, in his time, the people of Earth will no longer spend their resources on death, but rather spend it on life. Watch CITY on the EDGE of FOREVER

I have seen the episode, most of what you're attributing to Kirk was actually coming from Edith.

Edith: "... I think that one day they'll take all the money they spend now on war and death ..."

Kirk: "And make them spend it on life?"

Edith: "Yes."

By your interpretation 2takesfrakes, "one day" would be in Edith's time, not Kirk's.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

How can it make you sleepy when the music is so exciting?

 

[2takesfrakes]

T'Girl, you just had to split hairs and be so precise!!! Do you know how much STAR TREK has been produced over the past fifty years? Hmm ...? How can I be expected to know every grunt and groan within the confines of this blessed franchise?

And besides, I'm a TNG kind of guy. And one of my favourite moments in TNG was in First Contact, when Troi tells Cocharan about how Alien Contact changed everything for Mankind. That speaks to me, truly, because even in STAR TREK, Humanity refuses to make a world of Love and Peace. Aliens have to put us up to it. How ironic is that? It's all pizzas and fairy tales, really, but I so love the idea of it - the hope ...