TOS Guest Stars who deserve (but never received) follow-up treatment

[alpha_leonis]

In the jump from small-screen TOS to the movies, and then to the follow-up series, many folks from classic episodes "made the jump" in some form or another:

• All of the "Big 7" made it through all 6 of the movies, and they all appeared in some form in at least one of the follow-up series.
• Chapel, Rand and Kyle all made movie cameos (Rand also appeared once on Voyager.)
• Khan, Sarek, and Amanda Grayson all made significant appearances in the movies, including the Abrams reboot (Christopher Pike also got redone for the reboot movies -- and Sarek appeared again a couple of times on TNG.) (Note, I'm not including Carol Marcus in this list, since her character was not even *created* until the movie era.)
• Three of the big Klingon adversaries (Kor, Koloth and Kang) appeared later on during DS9 and Voyager. (Kras from "Friday's Child" might also have been included, except for his character's death.)

What other characters from TOS are out there who could have done with follow-up treatment?

• I read once that the Romulan Commander from "The Enterprise Incident" was considered as the commander in TNG's "Face of the Enemy", but that the actress wasn't available at the time. She could also have replaced Caithlin Dar and made a slightly better movie out of TFF. Or the Romulan conspirator who-the-hell-is-Nanclus-anyway?
• Although the "Big Three" Klingons eventually made it to DS9, any one of them could have easily replaced any of the movie Klingons we eventually got (rather than creating a new character like Kruge, Klaa, Chang, or even Gorkon, why not use one of the established characters? Chancellor Kor, anybody? General Kang?)
• Dr. M'Benga could have been a direct assistant to Spock during the crew's return to Earth in TVH. Free up everybody else to prepare for their trial.
• This is a stretch, but in McCoy's "Funny Farm" scene from TSFS, could there have been a cameo from somebody like Captain Garth, Leonore Karidian, or Richard Daystrom, all of whom ended their episodes being sent to "funny farms" of their own?
• What about Redjac? If they redid "the Naked Time" for TNG, why not "Wolf in the Fold"? DS9 would have been brilliant with the concept, IMO.

Other thoughts? Disagreements with the above? Have at it!

 

[Kilana2]

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I'd like to have seen more of Gary Seven/Robert Lansing and Roberta Lincoln. Luckily there are great authors like Greg Cox and Dayton Ward who include those characters in novels.

I checked the German Memory Alpha and found out that Teri Garr hasn't fond memories of Star Trek. I'm sad to hear that.

Lenore Karidian's fate was dealt with in the novel Foul deeds will rise. I was quite content with the outcome.

M'Benga was included in the Vanguard novels, so I was happy to read about him. Same goes for Clark Terrell.

Greg Cox' Eugenic Wars (including Khan, Gary Seven and Roberta Lincoln among others) would be great as a movie. Unfortunately some of the actors already passed away and I can't imagine someone else as Gary Seven.

It would be a great question for Greg Cox: who could replace Robert Lansing as Gary Seven?

 

[The Old Mixer]

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This is a stretch, but in McCoy's "Funny Farm" scene from TSFS, could there have been a cameo from somebody like Captain Garth, Leonore Karidian, or Richard Daystrom, all of whom ended their episodes being sent to "funny farms" of their own?

He wasn't at the funny farm yet, he was in a holding cell, with plans to send him to the funny farm.

 

[FormerLurker]

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By the movie era, Garth could well have been sane enough to return to service, should he have chosen to do so. If so, it could have been he rather than either Morrow, or Cartright, in SFS, TVH, or TUC.

 

[BillJ]

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Gary Mitchell. Seems Kirk killed a God a little too easily.

 

[Wingsley]

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Commodore Stone (Percy Rodriguez in "Court Martial") would have been a great returning character. So would Commodore José Mendez (Malachi Throne in "The Menagerie"). I enjoyed seeing these flag officers more than any of the others. Of course, they were actual characters that were integral to the stories, whereas other flag officers were just cameos that gave orders. Commodore Wesley in "The Ultimate Computer" had less exposure, but still left a great impression. Barry Russo would've been great to see again.

I always had a desire to either return to Eminiar VII or to visit Vendikar ("A Taste of Armageddon") to see what had happened there. Was there unfinished business to resolve? Was the computer-war still raging? Or were new problems arising? Anan 7 (David Opatoshu) made a superb, Putin-like oligarch. I also enjoyed Ambassador Fox (Gene Lyons) and thought his character was interesting and would've been useful in other stories.

Diane Duane made great use of the Horta ("Devil in the Dark") in at least two of her novels. I would love to have seen them brought to life in a movie or subsequent TV series.

It would've been a thrill to see T'Pau (Celia Lovsky from "Amok Time") in a movie. We sort-of saw this as a prequel in ENT.

It would also be fun to revisit Planet IV of System 892 ("Bread and Circuses") and see what happened there, and possibly see what Proconsul Claudius Marcus did. Logan Ramsey was superb as a literally backstabbing Roman oligarch.

I also wanted to know about the further exploits of Kolos and Miranda (Diana Muldaur) Jones. There was plenty of story potential there, Muldaur was always great in TREK, including in TNG as Dr. Pulaski.

 

[Captain Clark Terrell]

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Helen Noel, Jose Mendez, The Romulan Commander (TEI), Gary Seven/Roberta Lincoln/Isis, Kang/Kor/Koloth, Garovick, and Mirror Spock.

--Sran

 

[Kilana2]

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Helen Noel, Jose Mendez, The Romulan Commander (TEI), Gary Seven/Roberta Lincoln/Isis, Kang/Kor/Koloth, Garovick, and Mirror Spock.

--Sran

Oh my, I forgot Isis......


And I'd like to mention Liviana Charvanek. I guess I have Laser Beam's support.....

 

[Greg Cox]

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It's a shame that Uhura never appeared in any of latter-day shows or movies. McCoy and Spock and Scotty made it onto TNG. Sulu and Rand appeared on VOYAGER. Kirk and Chekov showed up in GENERATIONS.

But we never saw Uhura after TUC . . ...

 

[Kilana2]

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It's a shame that Uhura never appeared in any of latter-day shows or movies. McCoy and Spock and Scotty made it onto TNG. Sulu and Rand appeared on VOYAGER. Kirk and Chekov showed up in GENERATIONS.

But we never saw Uhura after TUC . . ...

That's why I like the Lost Era novels. We can "see" Uhura as head of SI in Catalyst of Sorrows. But sadly we haven't seen her on screen, that's right.

 

[erastus25]

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A Private Little War would have been a nice sequel. I know that TNG almost did it; in a way it's too bad they didn't follow through.

 

[telerites]

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I would have loved to see how "Plato's Stepchildren" Alexander (Michael Dunn) fared after his coming to the Enterprise and what happened to him preferably while Dunn was still with us and acting.

A lot of it because I would watch Michael Dunn in anything. An extraordinary actor who was in pain much of the time.

His Dr. Miguelito Loveless character from "Wild, Wild West" was one of my favorites as well.

 

[alpha_leonis]

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It would've been a thrill to see T'Pau (Celia Lovsky from "Amok Time") in a movie. We sort-of saw this as a prequel in ENT.

Part of me has always wished they could have brought back T'Pau in TSFS as the matriarch in charge of Spock's Fal-Tor-Pan. Of course the real-life reason was that Celia Lovsky had passed away by then (she died in 1979, which would have left her unavailable for *any* of the movies -- except possibly as one of the Kolinahr administrators in TMP. Assuming her health was up to it at the time.)

It was a casting coup in TSFS to get a legend like Dame Judith Anderson to play T'Lar, and I think partly it would have been a waste to have *that level of talent* playing "just" a recast of somebody else's character.

(Even though Saavik had also been recast, from just one movie prior. Oh well.)

 

[ToddPence]

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This is a stretch, but in McCoy's "Funny Farm" scene from TSFS, could there have been a cameo from somebody like Captain Garth,

Since Steve Ihnat died in 1972, that would have nixed a Garth cameo.

 

[FormerLurker]

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Not necessarily. Glenn Corbett died in 1993, yet Zefrem Cochrane was an integral part of Star Trek: First Contact. They recast the role, remember?

 

[Tim Walker]

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I'd like to have seen more of Gary Seven/Robert Lansing and Roberta Lincoln. Luckily there are great authors like Greg Cox and Dayton Ward who include those characters in novels.

I checked the German Memory Alpha and found out that Teri Garr hasn't fond memories of Star Trek. I'm sad to hear that.

Greg Cox' Eugenic Wars (including Khan, Gary Seven and Roberta Lincoln among others) would be great as a movie. Unfortunately some of the actors already passed away and I can't imagine someone else as Gary Seven.

It would be a great question for Greg Cox: who could replace Robert Lansing as Gary Seven?

There was a thread www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=108296

There is at least one web site devoted to episode www.assignmentearth.ca

 

[johnnybear]

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I loved the way they explained the differences in Cochrane's looks between the tv episode and the movie too! Radiation poisoning! Bet James Cromwell felt very elated at that one!
JB

 

[Kilana2]

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I'd like to have seen more of Gary Seven/Robert Lansing and Roberta Lincoln. Luckily there are great authors like Greg Cox and Dayton Ward who include those characters in novels.

I checked the German Memory Alpha and found out that Teri Garr hasn't fond memories of Star Trek. I'm sad to hear that.

Greg Cox' Eugenic Wars (including Khan, Gary Seven and Roberta Lincoln among others) would be great as a movie. Unfortunately some of the actors already passed away and I can't imagine someone else as Gary Seven.

It would be a great question for Greg Cox: who could replace Robert Lansing as Gary Seven?

There was a thread www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=108296

There is at least one web site devoted to episode www.assignmentearth.ca

Thanks. I will peruse this thread.....

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

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• Dr. M'Benga could have been a direct assistant to Spock during the crew's return to Earth in TVH. Free up everybody else to prepare for their trial.

M'Benga deserved another voyage; he was one of the few TOS shipboard guest stars to seem like he had potential right out of the gates.

Another character who deserved a follow up was Lt. Charlene Masters ("The Alternative Factor") since she made a strong impression as a confident, in-charge officer (outshining any of Uhura/Chapel/Rand's contributions, and numerous male guest characters, too). There was enough to build on from that one appearance.

Both actors were alive during throughout the TOS-movie era.

 

[telerites]

Re: TOS Guest Stars who deserve (but never received) follow-up treatme

• Dr. M'Benga could have been a direct assistant to Spock during the crew's return to Earth in TVH. Free up everybody else to prepare for their trial.

M'Benga deserved another voyage; he was one of the few TOS shipboard guest stars to seem like he had potential right out of the gates.

Another character who deserved a follow up was Lt. Charlene Masters ("The Alternative Factor") since she made a strong impression as a confident, in-charge officer (outshining any of Uhura/Chapel/Rand's contributions, and numerous male guest characters, too). There was enough to build on from that one appearance.

Both actors were alive during throughout the TOS-movie era.

Booker Bradshaw who played M'Benga was excellent. I hadn't realised zed he was Motown Records International Mgr. He spoke 3 languages and wrote some television scripts according to his wiki bio.