More than most, but still fewer than DS9.
DS9: Kira, Jadzia, Odo, Quark, Worf, Ezri.
VOY: B'Elanna, Neelix, Tuvok, Kes.
ENT: Phlox, T'Pol.
TNG: Worf, Troi.
TOS: Spock.
TOS era homogenous crews
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DS9: Kira, Jadzia, Odo, Quark, Worf, Ezri.
VOY: B'Elanna, Neelix, Tuvok, Kes.
ENT: Phlox, T'Pol.
TNG: Worf, Troi.
TOS: Spock.
I've always thought of her as a human in extended recovery. Her issues are medical and require treatment. I think that her arc in the series bears that out, as the obstacles to her being fully human are gradually overcome. She may always have superhuman abilities, but as in Bashir's case, I see those as augment-like abilities. So: hybrid striving to be human, perhaps?
Well I didn't count B'Elanna as her quote kinda meant apart from her. And it was s7 so I didn't count Seska or Kes. And then there'd be two Betazoids too as you'd have to add Lon Suder.
Bolian Ensign Golwat and Bajoran Tal Celes were Starfleet, and possibly Betazoid Ensign Jarot.
That's an interesting way of looking at it. I like it.
My only issue with it that I can see right now would arise if it turned out that the nanoprobes rewrote DNA during the assimilation process. I can't recall an instance when that was said to be the case, and it seems unlikely based on what I know, but I'm not dead sure that nothing implies it.
At that point in the series though I think the official count of the whole crew was down to 140. She may have been using 'Human' as shorthand for 'Humanoid', and that figure is probably a result of the series' general lack of writing room bookkeeping. The number of crew dying never mathematically added up whenever the full crew compliment was referenced.
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I've always been partial to the idea that there were lots of aliens "below decks" on the Enterprise during TOS; we just never got the chance to see them. At least that was very strongly implied by the earliest set of non-canon novels (back when I was still reading the Trek novel universe.)
After all, it wasn't *that* much of a break between TOS and TMP, when all of a sudden there were aliens all over the place in the Rec Dec scene, and a couple of them even had bridge stations. If we can accept the idea that Chekov was below decks during season 1 and that's how Khan could recognize him (I know, not all of us accept that), then a dozen or so unseen aliens on the Engineering decks is just as plausible.
But then, the cadets in TWOK, about a decade or so later, were all human again (except for Saavik). But I could chalk that up to the idea that these cadets hadn't yet done their "interspecies relations" coursework that I'm sure would be required. A Vulcan Captain might be all they were able to handle at their training level. (But then, by TSFS, there was one tall bald alien back in the ranks, visible in the background during Admiral Morrow's review. It's not known whether that individual was one of Spock's trainees, or if he was a rescued member of Reliant's crew.)
After all, it wasn't *that* much of a break between TOS and TMP, when all of a sudden there were aliens all over the place in the Rec Dec scene, and a couple of them even had bridge stations. If we can accept the idea that Chekov was below decks during season 1 and that's how Khan could recognize him (I know, not all of us accept that), then a dozen or so unseen aliens on the Engineering decks is just as plausible.
But then, the cadets in TWOK, about a decade or so later, were all human again (except for Saavik). But I could chalk that up to the idea that these cadets hadn't yet done their "interspecies relations" coursework that I'm sure would be required. A Vulcan Captain might be all they were able to handle at their training level. (But then, by TSFS, there was one tall bald alien back in the ranks, visible in the background during Admiral Morrow's review. It's not known whether that individual was one of Spock's trainees, or if he was a rescued member of Reliant's crew.)
Ro Laren & Guinan were added to TNG. DS9 had an advantage. They came right on the coattails of TNG, & all the alien races used for the main cast on DS9 were featured or introduced on TNG, except for Odo, thus normalizing them. TNG came 2 decades after TOS, & Worf was the only TOS alien used on TNG. It appeared to me that they were forced away from using TOS aliens, in lieu of making new alien races, because they were spinning off the movie franchise more than the 60s tv show, which was why Worf worked for them, because he was a movie Klingon. Otherwise, they avoided the old show aliens like Andorians, Orions, Tellarites, etc... If they'd have made Yar an Orion, I'd have shit myself with glee, and I wish they'd have featured Selar more, because it appeared they wanted to distance themselves from having Vulcans
They need to have the following things for main crew members:
Andorian - Basically the Federation's Klingons, not the complete and total morons that Enterprise made them out to be. Take away the stupid forehead, give them some kind of unique article of clothing (I don't know, a cyber-circlet or whatever), and use them when they need to crack some skulls.
A Kzinti empath
A midget
A Vulcan who is well written. You gotta have Vulcans
Andorian - Basically the Federation's Klingons, not the complete and total morons that Enterprise made them out to be. Take away the stupid forehead, give them some kind of unique article of clothing (I don't know, a cyber-circlet or whatever), and use them when they need to crack some skulls.
A Kzinti empath
A midget
A Vulcan who is well written. You gotta have Vulcans
Yeah, but Commish said main cast.
Yeah... and I realize that, which kind of makes TNG look less versatile, but when you break it down, DS9 had a much bigger cast on the whole, especially supporting cast. TNG barely had any supporting cast at all. So when they added someone it was almost like adding a regular, especially in the case of Ro. Keiko & Ogawa & O'Brien were the supporting cast on TNG. Ro & Guinan were put more in the forefront, even more than Barklay
Jadzia and Erzi weren't on the show at the same time. And Worf didn't join the cast until season four.
So for four seasons DS9 and Voyager were tied.
I'm halfway thru the movie era Trek novel Dwellers in the Crucible, really enjoying it. The supporting characters include three Deltans, which isn't a race I'm used to seeing used much in the novels. I really like the inclusion and seeing the race explored a little bit. Other supporting characters include Klingons, Romulans, an Andorian, Vulcan lead...none of them are Starfleet, but still, the diversity of aliens in the novel is nice.
On the subject of diversity, I'm pleasantly surprised with the diverse sexual orientations in this novel from 1985. It's made pretty clear than the Deltans are bisexual, which makes sense, but it gets a little skeevy that there's implied sexual activity between two adult Deltans and an eleven year old prepubescent Deltan. It makes sense for their culture,and it's only very vaguely suggested, but still. The human female lead is described as strictly hetero, which even that is fairly progressive since it implies pretty clearly that there are other orientations. Despite that declaration though, the book has a strong subtext of the love between the Vulcan and human women - and although it's easy to read it as platonic, subtext still abounds.
Hopefully this isn't too far from the central topic of diversity in Trek.
On the subject of diversity, I'm pleasantly surprised with the diverse sexual orientations in this novel from 1985. It's made pretty clear than the Deltans are bisexual, which makes sense, but it gets a little skeevy that there's implied sexual activity between two adult Deltans and an eleven year old prepubescent Deltan. It makes sense for their culture,and it's only very vaguely suggested, but still. The human female lead is described as strictly hetero, which even that is fairly progressive since it implies pretty clearly that there are other orientations. Despite that declaration though, the book has a strong subtext of the love between the Vulcan and human women - and although it's easy to read it as platonic, subtext still abounds.
Hopefully this isn't too far from the central topic of diversity in Trek.
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