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TOS/ENT Daedalus Class Cutaway W.I.P.
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^ Thanks!
Heres an update for today, still in progress but the Nacelles are about 60% complete. Just have to finish the forward and rear portions.
The Nacelles are going to be similar in design to the NX style Nacelles. Considering that the Delta-Wedge and the Half-Saucer Warp Ships both have similar Nacelles to the NX, doubt Starfleet would make such a drastic change in only a couple years.
I see there being many different versions of the Daedalus-Class. My current version is just the first in a long line of variants to be launched between 2156 to 2180. If the design works theres no reason Starfleet would abandon it just in favor of a saucer, because thats what we know they use a hundred years into the future.
Look at the Aircraft carrier, I'm sure theres a dozen different designs but the most widely used by all nations is the flat deck.
Maybe when Archer takes over as Head of Starfleet Command he supports a return to saucer design. Who knows!?
Heres an update for today, still in progress but the Nacelles are about 60% complete. Just have to finish the forward and rear portions.
The Nacelles are going to be similar in design to the NX style Nacelles. Considering that the Delta-Wedge and the Half-Saucer Warp Ships both have similar Nacelles to the NX, doubt Starfleet would make such a drastic change in only a couple years.
I see there being many different versions of the Daedalus-Class. My current version is just the first in a long line of variants to be launched between 2156 to 2180. If the design works theres no reason Starfleet would abandon it just in favor of a saucer, because thats what we know they use a hundred years into the future.
Look at the Aircraft carrier, I'm sure theres a dozen different designs but the most widely used by all nations is the flat deck.
Maybe when Archer takes over as Head of Starfleet Command he supports a return to saucer design. Who knows!?
I know that the argument was made to remove the lifts... but I think that you'd need at least two lifts in this ship.
Note that I didn't say TURBOLIFTS. Just "lifts." In other words, the ship is small enough that HORIZONTAL movers would be waste of space, but vertical ones are still going to be necessary (when's the last time YOU had to climb ten stories of stairs in a hurry?
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If I were designing a REAL ship, I'd probably just put a zero-G open shaft in each area... no need for cars that can break down, or for space restrictions. But that's not the Trek way.
Just a small suggestion... if I were you, I'd have at least one VERTICAL-ONLY shaft in the primary sphere and at least one in the secondary cylinder. Just no horizontal tubes.
Note that I didn't say TURBOLIFTS. Just "lifts." In other words, the ship is small enough that HORIZONTAL movers would be waste of space, but vertical ones are still going to be necessary (when's the last time YOU had to climb ten stories of stairs in a hurry?
)If I were designing a REAL ship, I'd probably just put a zero-G open shaft in each area... no need for cars that can break down, or for space restrictions. But that's not the Trek way.
Just a small suggestion... if I were you, I'd have at least one VERTICAL-ONLY shaft in the primary sphere and at least one in the secondary cylinder. Just no horizontal tubes.
Two points:
1) The only Daedalus-class ship we *really* know was a Daedalus-class ship was the Essex from "Power Play" [TNG] which has a stated crew of nearly 200.
2) At least the Enterprise A (Star Trek V) and the Enterprise D ("Disaster"[TNG]) most certainly did have gravity in the turbolift shafts, not just the cars. Though I wouldn't feel bound by that while designing the Daedalus.
1) The only Daedalus-class ship we *really* know was a Daedalus-class ship was the Essex from "Power Play" [TNG] which has a stated crew of nearly 200.
2) At least the Enterprise A (Star Trek V) and the Enterprise D ("Disaster"[TNG]) most certainly did have gravity in the turbolift shafts, not just the cars. Though I wouldn't feel bound by that while designing the Daedalus.
Ok! UPDATE.
I'm sure this project will be more fun for the fool who accidentally stumbles onto it in a few weeks and finds a completed cutaway. It's six in the morning, I have partial insomnia and have to make sure my wifes up for work in an hour and a half... she's not exactly an "Early Bird".
So what better project to keep me busy.
I've added a lift in the Primary Hull, along with an adjacent Ladder System. I added deck seals, so that some unsuspecting crewman who slips and falls on the Ladder doesn't fall ten stories to his death.
I've also made additions to the Secondary Hull, including a nearly finished Shuttlebay. I'll let your own eyes attract to where they will; Hopefully I can get the Primary Hull done by the weekend at the latest.
Any suggestions you all may have are very welcomed and appreciated.
I'm sure this project will be more fun for the fool who accidentally stumbles onto it in a few weeks and finds a completed cutaway. It's six in the morning, I have partial insomnia and have to make sure my wifes up for work in an hour and a half... she's not exactly an "Early Bird".
So what better project to keep me busy.
I've added a lift in the Primary Hull, along with an adjacent Ladder System. I added deck seals, so that some unsuspecting crewman who slips and falls on the Ladder doesn't fall ten stories to his death.
I've also made additions to the Secondary Hull, including a nearly finished Shuttlebay. I'll let your own eyes attract to where they will; Hopefully I can get the Primary Hull done by the weekend at the latest.
Any suggestions you all may have are very welcomed and appreciated.
Well, my point was that you might not have CARS AT ALL... just a big empty tube with no gravity (and possible moving cables or something along the walls?).
^ You know a lot of Anime shows like Cowboy Bebop and the Mobile Suit Gundam series' had something similar to what you're talking about. It was usually just a long shaft with a rail system on either side and Zero-G in the tube itself. The rails had a motorized handle system that pulled the occupant along to the other end.
I had actually planned to use the exact same thing in the connecting pylon between the Primary and Secondary Hulls.
I had actually planned to use the exact same thing in the connecting pylon between the Primary and Secondary Hulls.
Alright! UPDATE!!!
I've added a lot of new stuff, Phase cannons, Grappler arm and the WARP NACELLES are complete! Sill a lot of work to be done, but its coming along nicely, I plan on doing the Engine Room next and I'm not sure what after that.
I also plan on doing two more ships after this, placing them at different points after the Romulan War. So as to allow for a gradual change between ENT and TOS. Seeing as how I doubt Starfleet would make Aesthetic! differences, during wartime.
I've added a lot of new stuff, Phase cannons, Grappler arm and the WARP NACELLES are complete! Sill a lot of work to be done, but its coming along nicely, I plan on doing the Engine Room next and I'm not sure what after that.
I also plan on doing two more ships after this, placing them at different points after the Romulan War. So as to allow for a gradual change between ENT and TOS. Seeing as how I doubt Starfleet would make Aesthetic! differences, during wartime.
I'm a big fan of Karim Nassar's take on the Daedalus design.
I like how he changed the orientation of the nacelle pylons and the connecting neck between the spheroid and the aft hull.
Having said that, I would think it would be great if your design came first, maybe as a prototype just before the Earth-Romulan Conflict broke out, they rushed Daedalus into service, had problems with it in combat, and then rebuilt it like Nassar's design, which would amount to a "refit" or "block 2".
I'm interested: you say you want the nacelles to be like those on the NX and the Intrepid, but these Daedalus nacelles look different. Will you be incorporating the spherical aft nacelle caps?
I like how he changed the orientation of the nacelle pylons and the connecting neck between the spheroid and the aft hull.
Having said that, I would think it would be great if your design came first, maybe as a prototype just before the Earth-Romulan Conflict broke out, they rushed Daedalus into service, had problems with it in combat, and then rebuilt it like Nassar's design, which would amount to a "refit" or "block 2".
I'm interested: you say you want the nacelles to be like those on the NX and the Intrepid, but these Daedalus nacelles look different. Will you be incorporating the spherical aft nacelle caps?
First of all, thank-you largo for that.
Secondly, I have seen the Karim Nassar Daedalus design and have to say I took a lot of inspiration from the design. The basis for this Daedalus design is that the current version you see here IS in fact the first in a line of variants... or "Blocks" if you will.
This current UPDATE, has an almost completed Nacelle... still have to add the spherical ball cap to the aft end of them.
I will be typing up a sorta brief background on this Daedalus and how I see it accurately fitting into the timeline between Kirk and Archer.
Secondly, I have seen the Karim Nassar Daedalus design and have to say I took a lot of inspiration from the design. The basis for this Daedalus design is that the current version you see here IS in fact the first in a line of variants... or "Blocks" if you will.
This current UPDATE, has an almost completed Nacelle... still have to add the spherical ball cap to the aft end of them.
I will be typing up a sorta brief background on this Daedalus and how I see it accurately fitting into the timeline between Kirk and Archer.
Hey Syc, that looks fantastic, keep up the good work. :thumbsup:
Have you seen Lennier1's redesign of the Daedalus with an Enterprise era exterior?
http://img457.imageshack.us/my.php?image=entdaedalusupd3small2kohe5.jpg
I think it's amazing and what you're doing here really fits in with it.
Have you seen Lennier1's redesign of the Daedalus with an Enterprise era exterior?
http://img457.imageshack.us/my.php?image=entdaedalusupd3small2kohe5.jpg
I think it's amazing and what you're doing here really fits in with it.
^ Yeah! I had seen that before... it was awhile ago but I remember thinking about that during the design phase. It would've come down to either the Daedalus-Class or some unnamed class after the Romulan War, I decided to go with the Daedalus.
Thanks, I was kinda deciding whether or not to add the tubes the way I did, not sure how it would look.
Yes, The Navigational Deflector will be going in the front, there's some rearrange I have to do. Namely because I don't see a purpose of putting Sickbay front and center of incoming enemy volleys.
Thanks, I was kinda deciding whether or not to add the tubes the way I did, not sure how it would look.
Yes, The Navigational Deflector will be going in the front, there's some rearrange I have to do. Namely because I don't see a purpose of putting Sickbay front and center of incoming enemy volleys.
It's looking awesome so far!
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