Torment of Destiny: Workprint

[James Pegg]

Have you seen the amusing "Bread and Savagery" rehearsal footage that's on YouTube? I'd also like to see Borg Q-Uest, the unreleased live action VHS boardgame starring John de Lancie as Q. Only a single frame (used for the "Q The Referee" card in the Star Trek Customizable Card Game) has ever been seen by the public. I was going to also mention Yorktown: A Time to Heal, but I just saw that it was finally completed and released after almost four decades last year.

I've seen that concept film of bread and savagery. Maybe one day CBS will allow them to finish these 3 off. And yes would love to see that Q boardgame video.

 

[E-DUB]

I watched part of it today. There was, I think, an unintended bit of humor where the infiltrator phasers a couple of crewmen. They simply freeze and walk off the set, the disintegrating effect presumably to have been added later.

 

[Cryogenator]

Nice one. Thanks. And yes I too got them both. Hopefully Bread and Savagery will turn up too at some point.

"The Protracted Man" workprint is available in 540p widescreen without a logo from the official German website once you register for and log in to the free fan club and can be saved with a download manager such as the Internet Download Manager. The fan club also has higher quality downloads of the released episodes.

 

[James Pegg]

Well unless I'm doing something wrong, trying to download those higher quality ones but Google links now seem to be dead. Pity

 

[James Pegg]

Turns out I can get he better resolutions. I was looking on the 4K section that wouldn't let me download

 

[Cryogenator]

Turns out I can get he better resolutions. I was looking on the 4K section that wouldn't let me download

I was able to download "The Protracted Man" and "Mind-Sifter" from the web player using IDM (and downloading "Mind-Sifter" that way gets you a slightly higher quality download than their largest official download link), but the official download links are all currently broken due to an error with the download counter which they use to see how popular the episodes are. The administrator told me last night that he's looking into it.

 

[James Pegg]

I was able to download "The Protracted Man" and "Mind-Sifter" from the web player using IDM (and downloading "Mind-Sifter" that way gets you a slightly higher quality download than their largest official download link), but the official download links are all currently broken due to an error with the download counter which they use to see how popular the episodes are. The administrator told me last night that he's looking into it.

Thanks. I'll try again in a few days for the 4K ones. By the way I got protracted man using IDM but while it said it was 576 download, VLC actually says it's 480

 

[Cryogenator]

I just checked again and the download links for "Mind-Sifter" are working. The highest quality download is labeled as 1668MB but actually comes out to nearly 3GB, whereas downloading from the web player yields a 1.85GB file, so it's not actually better. The rest of the HD links are still down for me.

 

[Cryogenator]

Yeah, "The Protracted Man" workprint looks really bad, which is odd since they have an HD trailer for it.

 

[Cryogenator]

Thanks. I'll try again in a few days for the 4K ones. By the way I got protracted man using IDM but while it said it was 576 download, VLC actually says it's 480

Are you able to download the high resolution files or DVD ISOs? The administrator told me the links are fixed but they're still broken for me.

 

[James Pegg]

Not from the fan club side. Only from the main pages which everyone can get to

 

[Cryogenator]

Not from the fan club side. Only from the main pages which everyone can get to

The links are fixed now.

For anyone reading, note that there are multiple cuts of several episodes:

"To Serve All My Days" is available with real commercial breaks from 1969 exclusively from a DVD ISO in the free fan club area. You can extract this presentation from the ISO using the free program MakeMKV.

There are four versions of "Mind-Sifter:" the widescreen edition with both stereo and surround sound tracks available through the fan club, and fullscreen versions with modern VFX in surround, modern VFX in stereo, and retro VFX in stereo available through the public page.

The final cut of "The Holiest Thing" is best downloaded in higher quality from the fan club page in 1440p (5.2GB), while the original "director's" cut, which has a different actor for Spock and an alternate ending, is available only on the public page in 1080p. Also, a German dub of the final cut in widescreen is available on YouTube.

Also, as previously noted, the "Torment of Destiny" workprint is currently available as an unlisted video on James Cawley's channel and can be downloaded with various YouTube downloader tools and sites. (The administrator of the German site said on their official Telegram that it's also hidden somewhere on the website.)

The workprint of "The Protracted Man" is available in the correct aspect ratio and without a watermark through an embedded video player in the fan club. I was able to download it with a free trial of the Internet Download Manager and its browser integration module.

The DVD ISOs contain a deleted scene from "The Child," the alternate ending to "The Holiest Thing" by itself, a brief VFX featurette for "The Holiest Thing," and a radio interview with David Gerrold which I don't see on YouTube nor the website (these can be extracted with MakeMKV).

The ISOs also contain production documentaries for "Come What May," "World Enough and Time," "The Child," "Kitumba," "Mind-Sifter," and "Timeline Restored;" a James Cawley FedCon panel; and trailers which are also all on the official YouTube channel, plus the "Silly Sulu" blooper reel, a VFX reel for "Enemy Starfleet," and a "lost interview" of George Takei.

The official YouTube channel has many more behind the scenes videos and conference panels, and the fan club has a couple more ("Dragon Con 2009" and "New Voyages, after the CBS Fan-Film Guidelines") that aren't on the YouTube channel, as well as "In Thy Image," which is The Final Frontier cut down to 63 minutes with sound effects from the original series.

 

[Cryogenator]

Makes sense. Clear it all out and close the book on the series once and for all.

The book isn't closed until we have the full workprint of "Bread and Savagery."

 

[Firebird]

Isn’t there an alternate director’s cut of Kitumba as well that Vic Mignogna leaked after a bunch of behind the scenes drama which lead to his break from the series & the creation of STC?

 

[Cryogenator]

Isn’t there an alternate director’s cut of Kitumba as well that Vic Mignogna leaked after a bunch of behind the scenes drama which lead to his break from the series & the creation of STC?

You're right. I hadn't heard of this. It was on Vimeo for less than a day. If anyone has it, please share it. I'd like to have it for the sake of completeness and the drama has long since passed.

 

[Cryogenator]

I found the "Torment of Destiny" workprint hidden on stnv.de. It's in 720p instead of 480p as on James Cawley's channel, but also has large colored text appearing at various points to note where voiceovers and VFX should be added.

I also found Jack Marshall's 4K-upscaled director's cut of "To Serve All My Days" on his YouTube channel.