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TOP GUN 2 in development; Tom Cruise may Return for a Small Role

Gee, I was feeling pretty proud of my little Piper Cherokee. Guess that doesn't quite rate next to a personal 747 AND his own airport! :-(
 
My bet is that they'll invent some vague mercenary air force with equally vague Middle Eastern/European/North Korean ties as the baddie. But the lack of a realistic enemy has never stopped a Hollywood movie before, IMO.

But rather than F-14s against MiG-28s, it could be F-18s against M-29s or even foreign-owned F-16s. If they go CGI, however, the sky would literally be the limit as far as what current aircraft they could use...

The last F-14s have been retired, so if they want those it would have to be stock film or CGI.
I know, so I severely doubt they'll use F-14s. I think they'll use F-18s instead.

But I'm thinking they'll use CGI if they want to have lots of F-22s, F-35s, or any other of today's aircraft from around the world in large numbers.

I think Top Gun has a more idealized setting than a 100% realistic one--it's still a big-budget Hollywood adventure movie, after all--so they probably can depict situations that are quite different from the real world where the current generation of fighters might actually see little to no combat action otherwise...
 
Actually, that could be a significant theme of the movie, in addition to the "old coot coming back to teach the young guns" thing. For better or worse, most mlitary analysts are thinking that almost all of the future flying and fighting done in the air will be done solely by UCAVS. Right now, even Boeing's trying to pitch ideas for the next, next generation of carrier-based combat aircraft, which would be provisioned for pilot and drone configurations, though no one serious expects the manned version to be something the Navy would want.

We're basically being faced with the loss of the romantic aspirations of anyone who saw Top Gun, Tora! Tora! Tora! or (God forbid) Pearl Harbor, simply because thirty years from now there will be NO fighter planes around that anyone could fly. That could be a great theme to explore with the military trading real dogfighting skill for sim gamer experience, based around using the real-life F-18s and F-35s which are billed as the last manned fighters in the USN.

Throw in some awesome dogfighting combat action, and this could actually be fun. You know, like that "Stealth" movie, but good. :)

Mark

PS - Travolta has a older Boeing 707, not a 747. Even with his paychecks, a 747 would be waaaay too expensive to fly for fun!

http://telstarlogistics.typepad.com/telstarlogistics/2008/06/exploring-john.html
 
Actually, that could be a significant theme of the movie, in addition to the "old coot coming back to teach the young guns" thing. For better or worse, most mlitary analysts are thinking that almost all of the future flying and fighting done in the air will be done solely by UCAVS. Right now, even Boeing's trying to pitch ideas for the next, next generation of carrier-based combat aircraft, which would be provisioned for pilot and drone configurations, though no one serious expects the manned version to be something the Navy would want.

We're basically being faced with the loss of the romantic aspirations of anyone who saw Top Gun, Tora! Tora! Tora! or (God forbid) Pearl Harbor, simply because thirty years from now there will be NO fighter planes around that anyone could fly. That could be a great theme to explore with the military trading real dogfighting skill for sim gamer experience, based around using the real-life F-18s and F-35s which are billed as the last manned fighters in the USN.

Throw in some awesome dogfighting combat action, and this could actually be fun. You know, like that "Stealth" movie, but good. :)

Mark

PS - Travolta has a older Boeing 707, not a 747. Even with his paychecks, a 747 would be waaaay too expensive to fly for fun!

http://telstarlogistics.typepad.com/telstarlogistics/2008/06/exploring-john.html

From what I've read the Navy is accepting the fact that the F-35 will be the last manned carrier fighter plane.
 
I don't care how bad it's gonna be and how laughingly absurd the logic in the movie will be.. if it's got gay volleyball players, gay hugs and dumb one liners i'm in!

This will probably be immediately pre-ordered once the DVD is announced! :techman:
 
^ Nah, Admiral Strickland* told Mav that the other side hushed it up. No harm, no foul. :D
The guys on the flight deck didn't know that. Hey, that was Strickland? Sweet!

They could do a postmodern version with Micheal Cera and Jonah Hill flying Predator drones out of Nevada.
:wtf:

:lol:

Nice. :techman:


Also from the AV Club...
And on close examination, the movie doesn't even lend all that much support to Quentin Tarantino's hilarious Sleep With Me monologue about its queer subtext.
I heard the legend of the subtext before seeing the movie, so I was looking for it... and couldn't find it, in large part because I'm not so juvenile as to view locker-room male bonding as inherently gay. If they'd grabbed each others' asses like NFL players do, that'd be one thing, but...
 
Calling it now... Shia LaBeouf as Maverick and Charlie's son who has become aimless since Charlie died (she died so they don't have to bring Kelly McGillis back who doesn't look like Kelly McGillis anymore).

How do you know what Kelly McGillis looks like these days? For all you know, she's still sexy.



Val Kilmer and/or Tim Robbins as Top Gun instructors?
Would they still even be in the Navy at this time? More importantly, would both actors even consider coming back to these roles (Robbins especially)?

It'll probably be European Neo-Nazis or US Militia members.

It could (and should) be a PMC based on Blackwater, like Artemis Global Security; there's no way Neo-Nazis or US Militia m embers would be getting aircraft to do anything.

They could do a postmodern version with Micheal Cera and Jonah Hill flying Predator drones out of Nevada.

Provided Michael Cera wants to act in a movie like Top Gun; he hasn't shown any inclination before.
 
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Calling it now... Shia LaBeouf as Maverick and Charlie's son who has become aimless since Charlie died (she died so they don't have to bring Kelly McGillis back who doesn't look like Kelly McGillis anymore).

How do you know what Kelly McGillis looks like these days? For all you know, she's still sexy.

Googled up this pic from last year.

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She's aged reasonably well, all told, but still sexy? Well, put it this way, she's no Helen Mirren, that's for sure.
 
"Faster Than the Speed of Love"...

It's a price we pay for relative global peace, but it DOES suck that there's basically no one in the world anymore who would be a threat to an allied air force in terms of dogfighting. As it stands, the missile technology we already have would make air-to-air kills almost always beyond visual range, on either side. Seriously cool to be able to do, but hardly exciting in a movie compared to anything before Desert Storm.

If the movie's just in development, it'll be a good three years minimum before the thing hits the screens. In order to keep costs down, I can see them using CGI for an awful lot of shots, as in Flyboys (which I actually *did* like if only as an excuse to see lots of dogfights). As such, I could see them using the Navy version of the F-35 as the plane for the movie, and the plot centering around training the first generation of pilots for it. The F-35C isn't supposed to be available until 2014-15 anyway, so the timeline fits. Otherwise, they can just use the existing or (better yet) newer Block 2 F-18 E/F Super Hornets, which is the plane that mostly replaced the F-14.

As for cameos from anyone, it would be seriously unrealistic to consider Maverick, Iceman or any of the other pilots from the first move as still actively flying in the Navy. As I understand it, few pilots have a career in a fighter jet that lasts longer than five or six years in the first place. They would have all since retired to desk jobs or civilian lives. However, it WOULD be interesting to see Maverick flying a 737 out of Topeka one day when he got called back to active duty to teach a bunch young whippersnappers how to dogfight.

Oh, and play beach volleyball to catchy 80s music. :P

Mark

They can have Maverick as the last Naval Aviator with a kill and maybe Scott Glenn playing the last ace being released from prison argueing the same thing was said in the 50s and sparked the creation of Top Gun in the first place.
 
The last F-14s have been retired, so if they want those it would have to be stock film or CGI.
The F-14 is still in use by the Islamic Republic of Iran's Air Force.

There's your movie right there, it writes it's self.
 
The last F-14s have been retired, so if they want those it would have to be stock film or CGI.
The sad thing about this is that most of the remaining Tomcats have to be destroyed in order to prevent them from being used as black market spare parts for Iran. An ungrateful end for one of the most beautiful aircraft designs of the 20th century.
 
The F-14 is still in use by the Islamic Republic of Iran's Air Force.

There's your movie right there, it writes itself.

And they get shot down by the USAF's F-22's very quickly, with the movie becoming controversial due to it's use of Iran as an antagonist.:vulcan:
 
Iran can't fly most of their F-14s. They don't have the spare parts to keep them operational. They have at most, a single squadron active, but they would be no match for a fifth generation fighter, let alone the vast armada of fourth generation fighters still out there. They would be more likely to resist NATO with a Soviet or Chinese design.
 
They had to cannibalize part of their fleet but the systems have been overhauled by the Russians (no match for most modern aircraft but it could still take on an unbalanced turkey like the F-35).
 
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