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Tony Gilroy will direct THE BOURNE LEGACY

Gosling might be okay, but I'd most like to see them try something a bit different, ethnicity-wise... a young black, Middle Eastern or Indian guy... someone who, unlike DiCaprio in Body of Lies, really could blend in in today's worst hot spots.

That could be interesting, but I don't see that happening unfortunately.
Alas, the Archer appears to be right. The alleged line-up of possibles is whiter than a Fox Noise lineup.

It's funny - back when the project was announced, I was one of its biggest defenders here, but I now feel that it'll have to do something new to have a chance at real success. The odds of them finding another young white dude as interesting as Damon with as cool a hook as Bourne's seem slim.
 
Could you have a 'James Bond' movie centring on 001 -6 or 008/9?
Actually, yes. If they'd made a film about Colin Salmon's character, circa 2000-2004, maybe a little more gritty and grounded, maybe a harder rating, I'd have been all over that. :)

And there was some serious talk about a Michelle Yeoh movie, spinning off from Tomorrow Never Dies.
 
^ Oh yes! I would be for a Colin Salmon Bond movie even if he wasn't Bond himself. Out of those actors listed in that article my personal preference would be Jake Gyllenhaal. How is Tobey Maguire young though? He's 35. Jake is 30. Fassbender is 33. LOL.
 
Could you have a 'James Bond' movie centring on 001 -6 or 008/9?
Actually, yes. If they'd made a film about Colin Salmon's character, circa 2000-2004, maybe a little more gritty and grounded, maybe a harder rating, I'd have been all over that. :)

And there was some serious talk about a Michelle Yeoh movie, spinning off from Tomorrow Never Dies.

But those at least would have been about characters we'd seen onscreen and knew about. This movie seems to be about an entirely new character. Fair enough, it might work, but the likes of xXx2 or Predator 2 seem to suggest that fans don't really like changing leads in a franchise. And Matt Damon's Jason Bourne is a much harder act to follow than Vin Diesel's Xander Cage.
 
Colin Salmon is a popular actor though and there was a lot of online support for him to replace Pierce Bronson as the next James Bond. He was even called in to do test shots I believe. The other movies you refer to aren't really in the same class as a Bond film or Bourne for that matter. No one is replacing Matt Damon, he doesn't want to the film after being asked and they're creating an entirely new character with established popular actors.
 
Colin Salmon is a popular actor though and there was a lot of online support for him to replace Pierce Bronson as the next James Bond.

Brosnan, not Bronson. And just how popular is Salmon? What was the last Colin Salmon movie you saw in the cinema? How often has he headlined a big movie? Ever? There's a difference between people going 'Oh, yeah, I like that Charles Robinson guy' when they see him play a supporting role in a Bond movie and actually paying money just to see him as the lead.

He was even called in to do test shots I believe.

Actually, what you're thinking of is the fact that he used to stand in for Brosnan during readings for other actors auditioning for roles in the 007 movies. He never actually read for the role of Bond.

The other movies you refer to aren't really in the same class as a Bond film or Bourne for that matter.

Nonethless, they were sizable hits, whose sequels saw the leads replaced by new actors playing different characters. Ditto, for example, Speed 2, Terminator: Salvation, those Pink Panther movies made after Sellers died. And those sequels all flopped.

Can you name a franchise which replaced the lead character and which succeeded and continued with the new lead? I can't. That doesn't bode well for Bourne.

No one is replacing Matt Damon, he doesn't want to the film after being asked and they're creating an entirely new character with established popular actors.

Read my post again, I didn't say 'replace', I said Damon was a harder act to to follow.' than Vin Diesel, Arnie etc. And that's what will happen. Someone other than Matt Damon will have to headline a movie with Bourne in the title. Damon is associated with Bourne and vice-versa. Many cinema-goers who have loved Damon in the role will walk into the cinema expecting to see him; others will know that he's not involved and give it a miss. He's not being replaced in the role of Jason Bourne but he has to be replaced as the leading man in the Bourne movies and that is an unenviable task.

Finally, at the minute, we don't know if it will be an established popular actor in the lead. Most of the names under contention are far from box-office gold or household names. Maybe it will work out, who knows. Damon was rescued from a dwindling career by Bourne; maybe the magic name in the title will do the same for another young actor. But why not, you know, 'create an entirely character' and totally disassociate it from another actor's signature role?! Wouldn't that be better, free it from The Bourne Baggage (hey, I'm going off to register that title!)?
 
It would be one thing to make a spinoff called Treadstone or something like that, like how a movie starring Colin Salmon as Charles Robinson would be a spinoff and not part of the Bond chronology. But this is akin to making a movie called Van Wilder 2 without Van Wilder.
 
Right, because nothing about the title The Bourne Legacy suggests a tangential connection to past events, and people/things that may or may not be around anymore, but still influence the present. Nothing, that is, except the "Legacy" third. ;)
 
^ Yeah, good luck selling that to Joe Public. It's not like the name 'Bourne' is associated with the character Matt Damon played in three hugely successful movies or anything ...
 
Okay I wasn't thrilled when I heard they were planning on doing another one, and without Matt Damon to boot. However Tony Gilroy is an interesting choice for director. The names mentioned in the article (most of them anyway) are name actors and can carry a movie and make a studio a buck. What I've not heard about lately is the script it's self. The last info I remember reading was back when it was announced and that Josh Zetumer had been hired to write. That was like two years ago now. My concern is the story since they don't seem to be going with the novel plot.
 
^ Yeah, good luck selling that to Joe Public. It's not like the name 'Bourne' is associated with the character Matt Damon played in three hugely successful movies or anything ...
If Joe Public can't understand the possible implications of the word "Legacy", we might as well call it quits as any kind of halfway intelligent people, and offer ourselves to a competent nation such as Portugal as a protectorate. :evil:
 
^ You are aware, for example, that the James Bond movie Licence Revoked had to be changed to Licence to Kill because market research found that lots of people didn't understand what Revoked meant?
 
I've heard the rumor. FWIW, an uncited Wiki says:

Licence Revoked was simplified to Licence to Kill because American test screening audiences did not understand its meaning, however, in the documentary, Inside Licence to Kill, narrator Patrick Macnee says the reason is that to Americans "license revoked" denotes lost driving privileges.
The latter explanation strikes me as much more plausible. Licence to Kill is, after all, the more graceful-sounding title, and much easier to sing in the title song.
 
I've heard the rumor. FWIW, an uncited Wiki says:

Licence Revoked was simplified to Licence to Kill because American test screening audiences did not understand its meaning, however, in the documentary, Inside Licence to Kill, narrator Patrick Macnee says the reason is that to Americans "license revoked" denotes lost driving privileges.
The latter explanation strikes me as much more plausible. Licence to Kill is, after all, the more graceful-sounding title, and much easier to sing in the title song.

Maybe so. Even so, the argument that audiences will immediately get what The Bourne Legacy means doesn't wash for me. The Bourne Supremacy wasn't about Bourne showing everyone that he was the best. The Bourne Ultimatum didn't feature Bourne saying 'Do this or else!' Why should TB Legacy deal with his legacy when the previous movies didn't feature Supremacies or Ultimata?

My mistake on getting Pierce's last name wrong. I tend to do that a lot for some reason.

I don't know if you know of the late science-fiction writer and columnist John Brosnan, who used to have a column in Starburst magazine. When Pierce was confirmed as the new 007, I remember him writing in his column to the effect of 'hallelujah, now people will start getting my name right and will stop calling me Bronson!' So much for that theory John!
 
Bump - seems that the shortlist has been narrowed further:

http://www.darkhorizons.com/news/19983/five-actors-to-test-for-new-bourne-

I was holding out for James Franco or Jake Gyllenhaal, but apparently they didn't make the cut (probably because they were too much of a high profile name).

Out of all the actors on that list, I wouldn't mind Joel Edgerton, Dominic Cooper or Garrett Hedlund. I guess Universal believes a household name actor isn't required since the brand name is appeal enough. I don't necessarily agree with that- the whole appeal of the Bourne movies, for me, was Matt Damon and his portrayal, but that's my take on things. I don't think the Bourne franchise is bigger than Damon, but I guess we'll find out.
 
^ I agree with you about Damon being the draw. Having said that, I think it's probably a good idea not to replace him with a big-name actor. Let someone with little baggage come along and surprise audiences the way Matt did in TBI. We'll see.
 
^ I agree with you about Damon being the draw. Having said that, I think it's probably a good idea not to replace him with a big-name actor. Let someone with little baggage come along and surprise audiences the way Matt did in TBI. We'll see.

Good point. Let's hope the new actor, whomever that might be, delivers.
 
Franco and Gyellenhall are also in high demand right now so it's possible they're schedules didn't fit in with the films planned production. I was hoping for Jake myself. Out of the current list I'd go for Garret.
 
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