Chase really loves messing with people doesn't he?
http://www.vox.com/2014/8/27/6006139/did-tony-die-at-the-end-of-the-sopranos
http://www.vox.com/2014/8/27/6006139/did-tony-die-at-the-end-of-the-sopranos
Tony Dead?!? Fuggedaboutit!
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That's one of the more pretentious articles I've ever read.
I thought it was pretty obvious Tony was gonna get whacked.
Well clearly Chase wasn't happy when he saw that finished article
The Sopranos creator David Chase denies 'Tony Soprano did not die' quote
The Sopranos creator David Chase denies 'Tony Soprano did not die' quote
Pretentious in what way?
I dunno, just seems overly talky and over-written.
Anyway, as good as the Sopranos is, Chase is an incredible asshole. Regardless of art or whatever other reasons he has for not telling what happened to Tony after the end of the show, that's sort of why we watch these show, we want to know what happens with these characters and just dropping us out of it with no explanation whatsoever is sort of like kicking your loyal viewers in the balls.
I mean would you take a book out of someone's hands as they're reading the final chapter and say, "Nope! No more!"
We need an ending, dammit.
You got an ending. Chase has said it was all there.
As explained. here, everything in the finale, if not the series led up to Tony getting whacked (long but a good read).
Yep. Not to insult anyone personally, but if you think Tony survived for one second beyond the end of the episode you missed the entire point of the final season. Seriously- everything in the final season was a big sign saying: "Here is how you interpret the ending." before showing you the ending.
Good for Chase. Whiny fans who can't handle ambiguity deserve to be trolled hard.
The point of the ending was that any of the above COULD happen at any moment.
The point of the ending was that any of the above COULD happen at any moment.
Agreed. Chase would have had to have to be a terrible writer, to set up an entire final season foreshadowing the characters death in ways large and small and then have him not die.
And Chase is clearly far from a terrible writer.
And Tony Soprano did die in the most literal way for a fictional character: his story stopped.
I just don't see what Members-Only Jacket Guy could have been doing there if he WASN'T there to off Tony. It seemed so obvious he was the assassin.
You got an ending. The final episode aired in its entirety. What you really want is everything tied in a neat little bow. Chase wasn't interested in providing that. He's also not interested in offering up interpretations of what happened--he leaves that to the audience. Frankly, I think that makes him the exact opposite of an asshole. He wants people to draw their own conclusions. I'll note he is very explicit that he's not making interpretations of his work. Tony wasn't dead when the final shot ended, thus Tony did not die in the show. Did he die immediately after? Years after? That's up to the audience to decide--Chase no doubt has his own thoughts but he doesn't want to share them because he doesn't consider his interpretation more valid than anyone else's.
It's bizarre to me that people are making Chase out to be a jerk when he's going out of his way to let the work speak for itself, and let it speak differently to each person who experiences it.
The ending of The Sopranos is genius. I don't even think "Is Tony dead or not?" is the interesting question there. The series has always had metaphysical moments, especially in the last season, so therefore the possibilities are endless. What the scene means, though, is something separate from whether or not Tony died.
When speaking about the finale Chase once said he saw no point in blowing Tony's brains out at the end of the show. Did he want the last image to be "hahaha crime doesn't pay!" No, he didn't. Crime pays and it pays everyday.
If I had a link to where he talked about that aspect I'd post it, but I read it in "Difficult Men" and "The Revolution Was Televised."
The idea that the audience was robbed an ending is bullshit. I fucking hate, as the original article talked about, this belief that every story needs to end in a nice bow with a pat on the head for the audience. Ambiguous endings are often the way to go and I respect them because they respect the viewer's intelligence. As Chase once drily said, "God forbid there's a little poetry in things."
Anyhow, Chase is a master writer; his film Not Fade Away was an under-seen, thought provoking film. I love the guy and will watch whatever he produces for the rest of his career.
When speaking about the finale Chase once said he saw no point in blowing Tony's brains out at the end of the show. Did he want the last image to be "hahaha crime doesn't pay!" No, he didn't. Crime pays and it pays everyday.
If I had a link to where he talked about that aspect I'd post it, but I read it in "Difficult Men" and "The Revolution Was Televised."
The idea that the audience was robbed an ending is bullshit. I fucking hate, as the original article talked about, this belief that every story needs to end in a nice bow with a pat on the head for the audience. Ambiguous endings are often the way to go and I respect them because they respect the viewer's intelligence. As Chase once drily said, "God forbid there's a little poetry in things."
Anyhow, Chase is a master writer; his film Not Fade Away was an under-seen, thought provoking film. I love the guy and will watch whatever he produces for the rest of his career.
Yeah, I thought it was pretty obvious he was just throwing out a sarcastic "Who gives a shit, that's not what's important?" answer and the writer just ran with it, either because of a serious misunderstanding or because they wanted some click bait.
It's always the latter. And it's fucking annoying.
