Tom Paris/Nick Locarno Question

[Christopher]

I've been following voice actors ever since I started noticing their names in the credits when I was a kid. I grew up on Filmation shows, which tended to have small, radio-style casts where each person would do multiple voices, so I started to recognize the various voices in different roles and started keeping track of who was playing what role. So I always pay attention to voice actors and enjoy recognizing a familiar voice.

 

[JD]

It's similar for me, although for me it was curiosity about the actors doing to voices for the Jak and Daxter and Ratchet and Clank games. Once I looked those up, I noticed that they had alot of the cartoons I've enjoyed in there credits, and since then I've been paying more attention.

 

[Therin of Andor]

seiyu (Japanese voice actors) actually get a pretty good amount of respect there.

I found a site once which gave the names of the Japanese voice actors who dubbed TNG episodes. Many of them had already dubbed TAS. From memory, the woman who once did M'Ress ended up doing Bev Crusher.

 

[Christopher]

Well, when I was following voice actors growing up, I didn't have the benefit of online databases. I just had to compare which names appeared in the cast lists of different shows and match them up with the voices I recognized. For instance, I knew that Skeletor in He-Man had the same voice as Ming in Flash Gordon, and the one name that appeared in both shows' credits was Alan Oppenheimer, so that had to be the guy.

 

[Therin of Andor]

the one name that appeared in both shows' credits was Alan Oppenheimer, so that had to be the guy.

You didn't recognise the voice of the best (of three) Dr Rudy Wells ("The Six Million Dollar Man")?

 

[Christopher]

the one name that appeared in both shows' credits was Alan Oppenheimer, so that had to be the guy.

You didn't recognise the voice of the best (of three) Dr Rudy Wells ("The Six Million Dollar Man")?

At the time, I hadn't seen those episodes in years and didn't see them again in reruns until later. Or if I had, I hadn't possessed enough information to match the name with the actor. Not until after I became familiar with his name and voice through my animation viewing.

 

[JD]

seiyu (Japanese voice actors) actually get a pretty good amount of respect there.

I found a site once which gave the names of the Japanese voice actors who dubbed TNG episodes. Many of them had already dubbed TAS. From memory, the woman who once did M'Ress ended up doing Bev Crusher.

On a related note, I found out the other day that one of the seiyu from either Bleach or Naruto, did the japanse voice for Nog.

 

[Chris McCarver]

seiyu (Japanese voice actors) actually get a pretty good amount of respect there.

I found a site once which gave the names of the Japanese voice actors who dubbed TNG episodes. Many of them had already dubbed TAS. From memory, the woman who once did M'Ress ended up doing Bev Crusher.

On a related note, I found out the other day that one of the seiyu from either Bleach or Naruto, did the japanse voice for Nog.

I read somewhere that Akio Ohtsuka ("Batou" on Ghost in the Shell) was the Japanese dub voice for Will Riker on TNG.

 

[Scott Pearson]

Although this is a great discussion on voice acting, I'm going to go back on topic with two comments:

First, I'm perfectly satisfied to consider the physical similarities of Locarno and Paris to be just as coincidental as their respective accidents. Sometimes people just happen to look remarkably alike. Long ago I lived in England for several months, and my mom came to visit me for a week. We traveled to York, and while sightseeing there I looked up to see a dead ringer for my mom walking toward us. I just stopped and watched her go by, then turned to my mom and said, "Did you see that?" And she just nodded, an astonished look on her face. The resemblance was uncanny. If we hadn't both been so dumbfounded, it would have been interesting to stop the woman and see what she thought of the situation.

Second, the producers were originally looking for someone like Robert Duncan McNeill to play the Locarno-inspired Paris character, but after having some difficulty doing so decided to just bring in McNeill himself to read for the part. Turned out McNeill was amazingly McNeill-like, and he got the job.

 

[Christopher]

For that matter, it's possible that in-universe, Paris and LoCarno don't really look alike. After all, in the new movie, Spock Prime recognizes Kirk and Scott on sight even though they don't look the same to our eyes as their Prime-universe counterparts. So what we see onscreen is just an interpretation of the underlying "reality." If the same character played by two different actors looks the same to the other characters, then by the same token, two different characters played by the same actor might "actually" look entirely different.

 

[rahullak]

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Yeah, that makes sense. Like the actor who plays Sisko's dad who also plays an admiral, although if they had "met" it would be confusing.

 

[LightningStorm]

And apparently this phenomenon goes across species too. We have this full blooded Vulcan named Tuvok, who looks suspiciously like a human who served on the Enterprise B.

 

[rahullak]

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He was also in an Enterprise-D episode acting as a (human? alien?) criminal as part of a gang working to steal some stuff from Engineering. Picard decided to play barber Mot in that episode, as I recall.

 

[Christopher]

And Russ was a Klingon in DS9's "Invasive Procedures."

If we want to get into actors who've played multiple characters, the record-holder is Vaughn Armstrong, with 8 different roles, I think. Then there's Jeffrey Combs, Marc Alaimo, Mark Lenard, Majel Barrett, Diana Muldaur, and dozens more.

 

[Lynx]

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He was also in an Enterprise-D episode acting as a (human? alien?) criminal as part of a gang working to steal some stuff from Engineering. Picard decided to play barber Mot in that episode, as I recall.

Let me present some theories from my "Voyager Mysteries-and how to solve them" page.

http://lynx677.110mb.com/Voyagermysteries.html

The Tuvok lookalike in "Starship Mine" is actually Tuvok's evil brother Devor, the black sheep of the family who have left his home, denied his relatives and became a criminal. For some reason, Tuvok has never mentioned anything about Devor (or Devok if you want it more Vulcan), maybe for the same reason as Spock never mentioned his brother Sybok to Kirk or McCoy.

As for the Tuvok lookalike in "Generations", let us just assume that it's Our Favorite Vulcan himself, on a brief stint with the Enterprise. Why not?

The Tuvok in the DS9 episode "Through The Looking Glass" was a mirror Tuvok.

And Russ was a Klingon in DS9's "Invasive Procedures."

Here we have Tuvok on a secret mission, pretending to be a Vulcan. Note that the events in that episode takes place before Tuvok was sent to infiltrate Chakotay's crew.

 

[rahullak]

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A nice way to rationalize it.

 

[Deranged Nasat]

The Tuvok lookalike in "Starship Mine" is actually Tuvok's evil brother Devor, the black sheep of the family who have left his home, denied his relatives and became a criminal. For some reason, Tuvok has never mentioned anything about Devor (or Devok if you want it more Vulcan), maybe for the same reason as Spock never mentioned his brother Sybok to Kirk or McCoy.

As for the Tuvok lookalike in "Generations", let us just assume that it's Our Favorite Vulcan himself, on a brief stint with the Enterprise. Why not?

The Tuvok in the DS9 episode "Through The Looking Glass" was a mirror Tuvok.

And Russ was a Klingon in DS9's "Invasive Procedures."

Here we have Tuvok on a secret mission, pretending to be a Vulcan. Note that the events in that episode takes place before Tuvok was sent to infiltrate Chakotay's crew.

Brilliant, Lynx!

 

[Hartzilla2007]

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He was also in an Enterprise-D episode acting as a (human? alien?) criminal as part of a gang working to steal some stuff from Engineering. Picard decided to play barber Mot in that episode, as I recall.

Let me present some theories from my "Voyager Mysteries-and how to solve them" page.

http://lynx677.110mb.com/Voyagermysteries.html

The Tuvok lookalike in "Starship Mine" is actually Tuvok's evil brother Devor, the black sheep of the family who have left his home, denied his relatives and became a criminal. For some reason, Tuvok has never mentioned anything about Devor (or Devok if you want it more Vulcan), maybe for the same reason as Spock never mentioned his brother Sybok to Kirk or McCoy.

As for the Tuvok lookalike in "Generations", let us just assume that it's Our Favorite Vulcan himself, on a brief stint with the Enterprise. Why not?

Then why did Tuvok have his ears and I think eyebrows altered to look human?

The Tuvok in the DS9 episode "Through The Looking Glass" was a mirror Tuvok.

And Russ was a Klingon in DS9's "Invasive Procedures."

Here we have Tuvok on a secret mission, pretending to be a Vulcan. Note that the events in that episode takes place before Tuvok was sent to infiltrate Chakotay's crew.

I think you ment to say Klingon becuase Tuvok pretending to be a Vulcan wouldn't be too hard since he IS a vulcan.

 

[Christopher]

Or, here's a handy explanation: It's a TV show and they reused the same actor.

 

[Lynx]

^
He was also in an Enterprise-D episode acting as a (human? alien?) criminal as part of a gang working to steal some stuff from Engineering. Picard decided to play barber Mot in that episode, as I recall.

Let me present some theories from my "Voyager Mysteries-and how to solve them" page.

http://lynx677.110mb.com/Voyagermysteries.html

The Tuvok lookalike in "Starship Mine" is actually Tuvok's evil brother Devor, the black sheep of the family who have left his home, denied his relatives and became a criminal. For some reason, Tuvok has never mentioned anything about Devor (or Devok if you want it more Vulcan), maybe for the same reason as Spock never mentioned his brother Sybok to Kirk or McCoy.

As for the Tuvok lookalike in "Generations", let us just assume that it's Our Favorite Vulcan himself, on a brief stint with the Enterprise. Why not?

Then why did Tuvok have his ears and I think eyebrows altered to look human?

The Tuvok in the DS9 episode "Through The Looking Glass" was a mirror Tuvok.

And Russ was a Klingon in DS9's "Invasive Procedures."

Here we have Tuvok on a secret mission, pretending to be a Vulcan. Note that the events in that episode takes place before Tuvok was sent to infiltrate Chakotay's crew.

I think you ment to say Klingon becuase Tuvok pretending to be a Vulcan wouldn't be too hard since he IS a vulcan.

You're right about that. It should have been "Tuvok pretending to be Klingon, not Vulcan. It's 23.40 when I write this so I guess I'm a bit tired, let's blame the error on that.

As for his ears and eyebrows altered to look human, can we blame it on some subspace glitch which distorted the view on the ship?