To Taboo for you???

[roguephoenix]

well as far as that episode "the child" they managed to satisfy both pro-choice and pro-life people because she said it was her choice and she chose to have the child.

hmmm... have they ever done a child abuse episode?

 

[Captain X]

There was that creepy TNG one where all this planet's inhabitants had lost the ability to reproduce, so they captured a bunch of children from the E-D. It's a stretch, but I still think that's a little creepy.

 

[Nebusj]

I don't recall any time when Star Trek tackled pedophilia, either literally or metaphorically (not sure how to do it metaphorically, either, in a way that would unambiguously communicate what the metaphor was supposed to be.)

Maybe, but I still want to know who was behind the ``children with adult bodies'' genetic engineering project from _Unnatural Selection_, and when exactly they were arraigned.

 

[roguephoenix]

I don't recall any time when Star Trek tackled pedophilia, either literally or metaphorically (not sure how to do it metaphorically, either, in a way that would unambiguously communicate what the metaphor was supposed to be.)

Maybe, but I still want to know who was behind the ``children with adult bodies'' genetic engineering project from _Unnatural Selection_, and when exactly they were arraigned.

wouldn't pedophilia be the other way around where they had children's bodies with adult minds. so technically they would be consenting adults... but... yea... >_<

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Some people seem to have a problem with the meaning of pro-choice

I bet aborted fetuses have a problem with the meaning.

They're surprisingly unexpressive on the matter.

 

[c0rnedfr0g]

shouldn't this thread be "Too taboo for you" ?????

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

hmmm... have they ever done a child abuse episode?

Closest I can think of were both examples of *alleged* child abuse which turned out to be false: TNG's "Suddenly Human" (the kid in question had a pattern of injuries, but they were just normal childhood activities and, later on, military training) and DS9's "Cardassians" (a Cardassian child, raised by Bajorans, is suspected of being abused, but it was just Cardie fearmongering).

 

[roguephoenix]

hmmm... have they ever done a child abuse episode?

Closest I can think of were both examples of *alleged* child abuse which turned out to be false: TNG's "Suddenly Human" (the kid in question had a pattern of injuries, but they were just normal childhood activities and, later on, military training) and DS9's "Cardassians" (a Cardassian child, raised by Bajorans, is suspected of being abused, but it was just Cardie fearmongering).

guess that was too taboo for trek. maybe they'll have star trek: special victims unit... >_<

 

[Guartho]

Odo is also presumably going by Bajoran law and not Federation law.

As far as we know, Bajoran law as it relates to murder is the same as anyone else's, Federation included. You willingly kill somebody, you go to prison.

I was just saying that all we can assume from Odo's line is that killing a clone is considered murder on Bajor. It would seem to not be so in other places since Pulaski and Riker never seem to be prosecuted for killing their clones.

 

[M'Sharak]

shouldn't this thread be "Too taboo for you" ?????

I kept wanting to respond: "To Taboo IV or to Taboo VII? Same rate per quarter light-year, no mattah!"

 

[RobertScorpio]

Odo is also presumably going by Bajoran law and not Federation law.

As far as we know, Bajoran law as it relates to murder is the same as anyone else's, Federation included. You willingly kill somebody, you go to prison.

I was just saying that all we can assume from Odo's line is that killing a clone is considered murder on Bajor. It would seem to not be so in other places since Pulaski and Riker never seem to be prosecuted for killing their clones.

I hadn't thought about that..interesting duplicity!!

Rob

 

[sbk1234]

Pedophilia was already mentioned. How about, necrophilia and canibolism. Before I get a whole slew of hate notes, I'm not in any way condoning what the Nazis did, but perhaps killing an entire race for the benefit of others, or even medical experiments on sentient beings.
I know TNG has done episodes dealing with this, as has VOY, but IIRC, it is always approached from the strict protect the needs of the individual basis. How about an episode where they really push the point of a few people die or suffer so billions can live.

 

[JiNX-01]

I don't recall any time when Star Trek tackled pedophilia, either literally or metaphorically (not sure how to do it metaphorically, either, in a way that would unambiguously communicate what the metaphor was supposed to be.)

Why would Trek take on a storyline that suggests pedophilia, a predatory act, is OK?

Now if we're talking about a society in which a very young person might be married to someone much older, that might be a possibility.

Case in point: Many historians believe that Mary, the mother of Jesus, was probably about 15 years old. Joseph, who was an established carpenter, could have been as old as 30. And Jesus' father was even older!

 

[Mordock]

I don't recall that they've done abortion. The allegory would have to be mighty thin to avoid pissing off a lot of people.

Mightn't "Tuvix" qualify (a new life which threatens an existing parent life)?

 

[TGTheodore]

Star Trek has taken on many social issues...anti-war, racial, sexual, enviromental, same sex relations (though, not to the point)..is there an issue they haven't done that you think they never will because it is so politically incorrect?

Rob
Scorpio

It's not the issue, it's how it's done. Also, if it's consistent within the framework of Trek.

Doing something "shocking" for the sake of doing something shocking isn't Trek.

As for sex, Trek has never been about sex (straight or gay). I find romance to be one of the weakest aspects of the franchise. And usually very poorly handled.

--Ted

 

[RobertScorpio]

Star Trek has taken on many social issues...anti-war, racial, sexual, enviromental, same sex relations (though, not to the point)..is there an issue they haven't done that you think they never will because it is so politically incorrect?

Rob
Scorpio

It's not the issue, it's how it's done. Also, if it's consistent within the framework of Trek.

Doing something "shocking" for the sake of doing something shocking isn't Trek.

As for sex, Trek has never been about sex (straight or gay). I find romance to be one of the weakest aspects of the franchise. And usually very poorly handled.

--Ted

Perhaps..but I thought HIS WAY was a very romantic and well done episode..it got my wife hooked on DS9...

Rob
Scorpio

 

[I am not Spock]

They kinda did 'genocide' in VOY's 'Jetrel', with the very Oppenheimer-like titular scientist character. And a Mengele analogy in VOY's 'Nothing Human' with the Cardassian Dr Crell Moset.

And don't the Cardies themselves in DS9 count as a Nazism/ Holocaust analogy?

 

[RobertScorpio]

They kinda did 'genocide' in VOY's 'Jetrel', with the very Oppenheimer-like titular scientist character. And a Mengele analogy in VOY's 'Nothing Human' with the Cardassian Dr Crell Moset.

And don't the Cardies themselves in DS9 count as a Nazism/ Holocaust analogy?

I havent seen those GOY episodes...I will endeavor to do so..thanks for the info

Rob
Scorpio

 

[PhoenixIreland]

Altho they have tackled same sex relationships they did wuss out a bit by never having it be explicit, always careful hinting.
So I wish they'd just have an SS relationship as a standard thing its not even a taboo anymore every sitcom has token gays now.

I agree with the others that taboo subjects should only be tackled if they need to be, not just for the sake of it, eg the economic stratification in that episode with stratus (still only seen clips) or the somewhat cheesy Ent AIDS episode.

I can't think of anything else they've pretty much done it all, even designer babies!!

 

[ria 75]

Altho they have tackled same sex relationships they did wuss out a bit by never having it be explicit, always careful hinting.
So I wish they'd just have an SS relationship as a standard thing its not even a taboo anymore every sitcom has token gays now.

All I ask is that one permanent character would turn out to be gay and no fuss would be done about it. Maybe some low-key romance. Not played out as a whole episode theme. Maybe at some point you would learn that Character A has/had been having an affair with character B for a while. Like Admiral Cain in nuBSG (Razor). It isn't the main thing that defines the character.