TNG's Heart of Glory is the most connected Klingon Episode to DSC until now.

[Unimatrix Q]

Posted this also on Reddit's Daystrom Institute.

It's a study of Klingon culture, psyche and philosophy, very similar to Star Trek Discovery.

And it mentions a war the Klingons lost against the Federation leading to a peace with the Federation and later to an alliance. It also depicts a group of Klingons doing the death howl but not caring about their dead. Maybe the Shenzhou Crew using a bomb with a klingon corpse to damage the Sarcophagus ship is one of the reasons for changing this aspect of their culture.

Korris, Konmel and Kunivas are perhaps members of a T'kuvma cult who still worship him and his Interpretation of Kahlessian philosophy after all this time.

 

[SpocksOddSocks]

Actually, I thought the sarcophagus tradition was not the norm even in the DSC period, just something that T'Kuvma brought back from ancient times.

I think there was a tidbit on the first After Trek that said as much.

However, I agree that the bombing is a good reason for it not to spread any further.

 

[Unimatrix Q]

What's also interesting is that the way the Klingons behave and talk in this episode is more like in Discovery than the Viking like ones in later TNG and Voyager episodes.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

The great thing about "Heart of Glory" is that it marks the first ever appearance of Vaughn Armstrong in Trek.

Which begs the question, when the hell is he gonna turn up on DSC?

 

[cultcross]

The great thing about "Heart of Glory" is that it marks the first ever appearance of Vaughn Armstrong in Trek.

Which begs the question, when the hell is he gonna turn up on DSC?

According to Jeffery Coombs who I asked about appearing on Discovery at a convention, the production are bit revisiting the 'old guard' of Trek actors to help separate their new show; the only exception was Dorn, who was offered a very paltry sum to appear which also seemed to have soured Coombs significantly to the show. I wouldn't hold my breath for the old Trek guest star roster to reappear. Plus, of course, it's been another decade and people are getting on a bit.

 

[Agony_Boothb]

According to Jeffery Coombs who I asked about appearing on Discovery at a convention, the production are bit revisiting the 'old guard' of Trek actors to help separate their new show; the only exception was Dorn, who was offered a very paltry sum to appear which also seemed to have soured Coombs significantly to the show. I wouldn't hold my breath for the old Trek guest star roster to reappear. Plus, of course, it's been another decade and people are getting on a bit.

I hear there will be a plot arc involving elderly star trek actors being used to navigate the mycelial network

William Shatner as the Tardigrade, anyone?

 

[Kor]

Without a doubt, the turtleheads in Heart of Glory were more nuanced and interesting than the stereotypical one-dimensional morons that came later.

As for the Klingon treatment of their dead, per TVH, we know that at some point they practiced mummification. So these things change over time.

Kor

 

[Vger23]

Heart of Glory was one of the best Klingon episodes of the Berman era.

This was when Klingons still seemed like a legitimate alien race, and not some random caricature.

 

[Tim Thomason]

Posted this also on Reddit's Daystrom Institute.

It's a study of Klingon culture, psyche and philosophy, very similar to Star Trek Discovery.

And it mentions a war the Klingons lost against the Federation leading to a peace with the Federation and later to an alliance. It also depicts a group of Klingons doing the death howl but not caring about their dead. Maybe the Shenzhou Crew using a bomb with a klingon corpse to damage the Sarcophagus ship is one of the reasons for changing this aspect of their culture.

Korris, Konmel and Kunivas are perhaps members of a T'kuvma cult who still worship him and his Interpretation of Kahlessian philosophy after all this time.

I'm firmly of the belief that the "Prophecy" Klingons who look for the kuvagh'magh were T'Kuvma followers, and behind the scenes, T'Kuvma was named for the kuvagh'magh.

 

[Succubint]

Okay. Mind blown. I love this theory. Now I need to go refresh my memory on those guys. I might become your first disciple. :P

 

[Tomalak]

According to Jeffery Coombs who I asked about appearing on Discovery at a convention, the production are bit revisiting the 'old guard' of Trek actors to help separate their new show; the only exception was Dorn, who was offered a very paltry sum to appear which also seemed to have soured Coombs significantly to the show. I wouldn't hold my breath for the old Trek guest star roster to reappear. Plus, of course, it's been another decade and people are getting on a bit.

Makes me wonder if Dorn was just asked to do a cameo as one of the 24 Great House leaders in the pilot. I can't see how else he would have fitted in.

 

[cultcross]

It was early days so there may have been a part written for him, but I suspect you're right that it would be a cameo at most.

 

[Unimatrix Q]

Another really interesting thing is how Worf's dialogue with Korris mirrors T'Kuvma talking to Kol.

WORF: Yet in all you say, where are the words duty, honour, loyalty. Without which a warrior is nothing.

T'Kuvma: "My presence." "My voyage." "My time." No one speaks of "my duty" or "my honor."

And doesn't the following sound very similar to Captain Georgiou's fate:

KORRIS: Brother, I knew you would come. (Worf climbs the ladder) Now I, we have a chance. I could not do it alone, but I would rather die here, than let the traitors of Kling pick the meat from my bones. With you it will work.

 

[Tomalak]

I'm so glad "Kling" didn't catch on as the name of the Klingon homeworld.