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TNG Rewatch: 5x09 - Matter of Time

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While enroute to a planet needing assistance following an asteroid strike the Enterprise detects a disturbance in the space-time continuum, when they stop to investigate they're told by the occupant of an unfamiliar craft to have Picard move out of the way. After doing so a human male beams aboard, saying Picard was standing in his beam-in point.

The man is Berlinghoff Rasmussen and he says he's a 26th century time-traveling explorer/historian there to observe this specific mission of the Enterprise's, claiming it's an important one that people in the future still discuss and debate.

Picard and the rest of the bridge crew are initially skeptical of Rasmussen's claims but cannot deny the facts before them (the temporal disturbance, the time-ship and it being made of a material they cannot scan and that Rasmussen is genetically human.) So Picard has little no concern letting Rasmussen observe the crew for a while, letting the crew answer questionnaires and access to sensitive areas of the ship (namely the bridge and engineering.)

On arrival at the planet, Picard works with Geordi and the planet's leaders to work-out a solution to the ecological effects the asteroid impact has had. They come up with a plan to use the ship's phasers to drill into pockets of CO2 under the planet's crust, creating a run-away greenhouse effect which will trap in what little starlight warmth is getting through the debris cloud in the atmosphere.

The plan is initially successful but soon after the planet experiences a number of geological disturbances in the form of earthquakes and volcanic eruptions. The ash clouds from the volcanic eruptions is blocking out even more of the sunlight, beyond which the greenhouse-effect can compensate for. It seems the good they tried to do has ended up worse for the planet.

During much of thus Rasmussen has been talking with the bridge crew and generally making a nuisance of himself as he tries to hit-on Crusher and then Troi, pesters Geordi while working in Engineering and along the way asks to see contemporary equipment mentioned in the questionnaires. We also observe him secretly stealing a phaser and a tricorder.

Geordi and Data think they have worked out a possible solution to the planet's problems but it's a risky move that will either work to their great advantage or decimate the atmosphere, and all life, on the planet. The idea being to use the ship's deflector to absorb all of the debris and pollutants in the atmosphere and eject it into space, but if their calculations are even slightly off they'll kill everything on the planet.

Picard struggles with the choice he has to make but sees that he has resource open to him he's never had before, Rasmussen. He calls Rasmussen into the Ready Room and tries to persuade him to inform Picard on what happened here, telling Picard what to do. Rasmussen refuses, seeming to hold onto a temporal equivalent of The Prime Directive and being indifferent to the lives of everyone on the planet as -to him- they've already been dead for a very long time. Picard makes an impassioned speech for Rasmussen to talk, but Rasmussen still refuses.

The conditions of the planet are at a point where they're as "good as they're going to get" for Picard's plan to work and decides that he's not one to play it safe and opts to try their plan. The plan works and all of the pollutants removed from the atmosphere restoring it to the quality it was before the asteroid strike. Rasmussen proclaims it's time for him to leave and heads off.

He's greeted in the shuttlebay with the bridge crew by his ship. Picard reports that a number of items have gone missing and they suspect Rasmussen is responsible. They want the items back and are prepared to either destroy the ship to get to them or Rasmussen allows an escort into the ship. Rasmussen agrees, but only Data -who can be ordered to not divulge whatever he sees, save for anything that belongs to the ship.

Inside the time-pod Data finds the stolen equipment and Rasmussen reveals who he really is, a unsuccessful 22nd-century inventor who managed to intercept an actual 26th-century time-traveler/explorer in 22nd-century New Jersey. Rasmussen was able to figure out the time machine and use it to travel to the future to recover future technology. He intends to bring it back with him to his present to "invent" them and make a fortune. But that plan is now pointless as he now has the grandest prize in the form of Data.

He tries to stun Data with the stolen phaser but it's been de-activated by the ship's computer (which detected the stolen phaser once the pod's door was open.) Data and Rasmussen disembark the pod. Rasmussen pleads to be let back in the pod before the auto-timer sends it off; instead Picard takes Rasmussen into custody, welcoming him to the 24th-century.

Overall this isn't too bad of an episode but it pretty much hinges on us having to accept that our crew is very, very, almost uncharacteristically, trusting. There's very little reason for them to take Rasmussen at his word that he's a time-traveler from the future. Sure there's plenty of evidence that the travel pod may be from the future, but why be so quick to accept Rasmussen at his word? (And I know Picard said he checked Rasmussen's "credentials" but, I don't know how you check the credentials of someone who won't be born for another 150 years.) Even if they believed him, allowing him access to sensitive areas of the ship seems to be a bit much. Sure, the questionnaires can be shrugged off as the crew won't divulge sensitive information and even the odd device or two could be seen as acceptable (for all we know the medical device Beverly gives Rasmussen isn't thought of much more than doctors today may think of a blood-pressure cuff.) But the crew way too easily accept's Rasmussen's claims and gives him quite a bit of leeway all things considered.

It's also odd they decide to "trap" him in the present considering they don't know what role he's to play in the past, he could be someone "important", if only on a genetic level to someone in the present not yet born in the past. It seems like they should have let him go back with Data and have Data bring the pod back to present after kicking Rasmussen out.

The B-story on the planet's troubles is interesting in that it sort of shows us how "powerful" Starfleet ships really are in terms of the impact they can have on a planet's ecology with seemingly little effort. It says a lot about how "strong" these ships are if they can just go up to a planet and burn off their atmosphere with little risk or danger to the crew.

Matt Frewer does do a great job in the role of Burlinghoff but the character's plan has a pretty damn big flaw in that what he plans to do cannot work!

Say he's successful, and he brings back with him a tricorder or that medical device or Geordi's VISOR (we see it on the tray of items he's taken. In which case he only has half of the necessary components for it to work) to say nothing of Data.

Then what?! He has in his hands technology that is 200 years more advanced than anything anyone on Earth in his time has. So not only is he unlikely to even know how to figure out how these things work but he doesn't have the tools or equipment to reverse-engineer it and mass-produce it.

Think of it this way, take a man from, say, the 1890s and we'll say this man is even an expert in dealing with contemporary electronics for in the form of telegraph devices, or jump ahead 20, 30, 40 years and look at men dealing with radios, early TVs and even the earliest of "computers." These men are dealing with technology centered around vacuum tube bulbs, thick wires and where doing a simple calculation on a computer involves a week's worth of setting switches to just the right place. Bring one of these men to the present and hand them an iPhone.

What you just gave them is dark-magic and it's a piece of technology less than a century or so away from them. With this device you can communicate with almost anyone on the planet and have at your finger tips an endless source of music, movies and the sum of human knowledge in the form of the internet.

Our time traveler is going to have no idea how this thing works, let alone be able to take it apart, reverse engineer it, and then mass produce it. To speak nothing of that an iPhone in 1890s-1940s is going to be useless without a connection to a voice/data service. And we're giving him the benefit of at least being from a time where he has *some* idea of the existence of electronics and that things like this "might" be possible.

Rasmussen is a man 200 years removed from that tricorder, that PADD, that VISOR and Data so maybe it's not too much to say we're handing our iPhone to a Revolutionary War Veteran.

Now, sure "Enterprise" tells us that "phasers", "tricorders" and other forms of now familiar technology were "new" in the 22nd century but likely in their very earliest forms, they're ENIAC to today's iPad. They work on the same principle, electronic signals stored and manipulated by pieces of hardware. But 22nd century phasers are essentially running on vacuum tubes and 24th century phasers are working on sub-microtransistors.

And he thinks he can reverse-engineer Data, a sentient artificial lifeform. No wonder he's a failed inventor, the time machine owner must have left the manual under the seat or something.

Anyway, still a pretty enjoyable episode even if the plot is kind of dumb, again, Frewer makes Rasmussen fun especially as he tries to hit on Crusher and Troi, and the scene between him and Picard in the Ready Room near the end is probably one of the better Picard talks/speeches/rants from the series.
 
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Then what?! He has in his hands technology that is 200 years more advanced than anything anyone on Earth in his time has so not only is he unlikely to even know how to figure out how these things work but he doesn't have the tools or equipment to reverse-engineer it and mass-produce it.

The guy just wants to get rich. Bring back technology, patent it, license it, make a ton of cash or whatever.

Plus, the same idea was recycled and carried out in VOY's Future's End. Time ship gets stuck in the past, a hippie discovers it and uses it to become a Steve Jobs-like guy with a huge company. Rasmussen might have done something similar.

Future's End, ugh, what a stupid episode. We're supposed to believe that all of the late 20th century technology was thanks to reverse engineering a ship from the future? Of course Braga and Menosky don't realize that much of that technology was already well on its way in the 1960s. Computers had already existed by then.

Anyway, back to Rasmussen. Trek history is so muddy between 1960s and TOS. There's so much inconsistency, especially in the 21st and early 22nd centuries. Shouldn't the world Rasmussen come from either be recovering from WWIII, or already be full of Vulcans? Either way, how is he supposed to get rich if the economy is wiped out or replaced?
 
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I don't think I can watch this episode without thinking about Dr. Leekie from Orphan Black. ;)
 
As I alreay said on this board, Berman doesn't seem to have consulted some real historians about the way of collecting information and what could be potential historical sources in the 24th century for the 26th century.

Actually, [the bridge is] quite a bit larger than I thought. A journalist from the 24th century could say that, but a 26th century's historian would have access to a lot of then declassified information and be able to see pretty a accurate holographic depiction of the bridge.

It makes sense for a journalist to go on the Enterprise to cover an ongoing event. It's a non-sense for an historian to do that for a past event, because he will alter its course. Logically, the real 26th century's historian didn't travel to the 22th century's New Jersey to study an event...perhaps to study how people reacted, but not the event itself.
 
On the theme of reverse-engineering, I actually think Federation tech could be advanced enough that anybody trying to pull it apart will get friendly advice from the technology itself...

But "Rasmussen" isn't executing a carefully thought out master plan. He is making use of a time pod he can barely pilot, in whatever profitable ways might present themselves. He is taking huge risks, but that in all likelihood is his line of business. For all we know, he's a survivor in the "post-apocalyptic horror" rather than somebody comfortably living and working in those parts of the globe where warpships are being built and Vulcans are handing over subspace radios, fabricators and whatnot. Dying horribly in some alien century might well be a big step up from his daily routines.

We know little about the real Rasmussen (?), the guy whose identity and pod this con man stole. He might have had the skills to observe an event without massively changing it (and we know time repairs itself in the case of minor wobbles, as shown in S4:TVH et al.). Or he could have come to observe this interesting con man who will, according to records, disappear off the face of Earth in the 22nd century and reappear in the 24th; the researcher might have deduced that visiting him in the 22nd would do little harm.

Heck, perhaps the researcher first studied the 24th century events (he was that nameless extra right at the edge of the picture in the first scene of the second act, see), decided that they will only come to pass if he loans his timepod to the con man, and then went to the 22nd and let "Rasmussen" "hijack" the pod!

Timo Saloniemi
 
A clever idea would have been to simply use the databases of the 26th century to learn more about scientific and technological progress. He knew enough about the Enterprise-D to impersonate a guy from the future. That means he had a lot of information already available before his arrival on the ship. He could have also used the Enteprise-D to collect a lot of useful datas instead of robbing objects.
 
I doubt he knew how to operate the pod or its databases. He wouldn't really need any information to impersonate a Future Guy, just gall.

I doubt he chose the E-D as his target, either. It's just where the pod took him, and he then made the best of it. Heck, he didn't even know how to stop the pod from moving on to the next target at a preset time!

Timo Saloniemi
 
Well, if it's a Federation pod or made on Earth it'd very likely have a very user-friendly interface. I dont quite see how it'd take "weeks" to figure out how to operate it unless it had some demands it took him a while to satisfy. He did say that *he* had programmed the auto-timer, just not confident he had done so correctly. So the pod leaving wasn't strictly beyond his control.

He just knee it's leaving was imminent and needed to be in it.

Even if he was from the early part of the 22nd century he's from a post first contact time where presumably humanity was on a sharp upward trend with the aid of the Vulcans and if he's from New Jersey he's likely from a place making the quickest progress. (But, then agin, New Jersey.)

I do think his encounter with the [I ]Enterprise[/I] was his first trip and he was just a slick enough con-man to work on the fly and make his lie work. He jusr got over confident and ambitious. As Picard said, if he had stolen fewer things they may not have asked any questions and certainly stealing weaponry set off the most bells. Just stealing little trinkets and perhaps even the tricorder no one would have given him a second thought once gone.

But I still say his plan is flawed since he hasn't the knowledge, equipment or means to reverse-engineer technology 200 years beyond him, let alone get it mass producedvto be of any benefit to him (assuming the economy in early 22nd century Earth is still based on money and needing it to survive and live.)

And of course this all ignores he doesn't need to steal things to invent, he already has a pretty darn big invention. He has a time machine!
 
He did say that *he* had programmed the auto-timer, just not confident he had done so correctly.

The wording is a bit funny for that...

" If the auto-timer is programmed the way I think it is, in about two minutes we should be on our way back to a place called New Jersey."

It sounds more as if the programming is the doing of somebody else, and deciphering what it means is what "Rasmussen" thinks he may have achieved.

If "Rasmussen" knows how to program or control the pod, why is he relying on an "auto-timer"? Why doesn't he just press a button, now that he's actually in a bit of hurry?

But I still say his plan is flawed since he hasn't the knowledge, equipment or means to reverse-engineer technology 200 years beyond him, let alone get it mass producedvto be of any benefit to him (assuming the economy in early 22nd century Earth is still based on money and needing it to survive and live.)

I don't see why he'd need to understand what he had obtained, let alone mass-produce it. He can simply sell each item as is, demonstrating most of the functions and capabilities like the inventor thanks to the user-friendliness of the thing, and let the buyer do the reverse-engineering in a predictable violation of the terms of the sale.

Timo Saloniemi
 
He wouldn't really need any information to impersonate a Future Guy, just gall.
He needed to be prepared. He needed to know what was that big Starship and who was its Captain. He also had some basic knowledge about Klingons. So yeah, Rasmussen read some important things before his arrival.

For all we know, he's a survivor in the "post-apocalyptic horror" rather than somebody comfortably living and working in those parts of the globe where warpships are being built and Vulcans are handing over subspace radios, fabricators and whatnot.
In fact, no, we don't know. We're not in 2014, we are in 1991...five years before the movie First Contact and ten years before the series Enterprise. We don't really know what happened between the Eugenic Wars and the first warp engine made by Cochrane and between that and Kirk's era.
 
Then what?! He has in his hands technology that is 200 years more advanced than anything anyone on Earth in his time has. So not only is he unlikely to even know how to figure out how these things work but he doesn't have the tools or equipment to reverse-engineer it and mass-produce it.
This is a very good point. It's like someone from the time the American Revolution bringing back a smartphone, laser pointer, medical thermometer/oximeter, electric motor, and a microwave oven. People had just discovered electric charge. They worked out that electricity was flowing charge, and wrongly guessed that the charge carriers were positive. What if the thief brought them to James Watt and Ben Franklin? I can't imagine them being able to use them; OTOH I can't imagine them not finding something useful about them.
 
He needed to be prepared. He needed to know what was that big Starship and who was its Captain. He also had some basic knowledge about Klingons. So yeah, Rasmussen read some important things before his arrival.
Not really. "This is the starship Enterprise, with Captain Jean-Luc Picard in command" is something Starfleet offers for free to random passersby! And any mention of Klingons or their ways only comes after "Rasmussen" has spent hours upon hours aboard the ship.

Heck, "Rasmussen" doesn't even mention the name "Picard" until after the first cut; it's just "Captain" until that point. A good cold-reader would do just that, insert the name after dredging it out of innocuous conversation. All he would hazard is using two bits of naval terminology to get the conversation going. And "Captain" and "bridge" are guesses that don't backfire for him (note he doesn't even use "ship", let alone "starship", at any point of the initial discussion).

In fact, no, we don't know. We're not in 2014, we are in 1991...
All the more reason for us to know, as "Farpoint" has established Earth to be a hellhole, and no contrary evidence has been provided yet.

Timo Saloniemi
 
Well, you know how a replicator can make things like communicators and tricorders, can a replicator make a replicator?

Then that would really be all he'd need to create just about anything.

But he probably is greedier than that, or not as confident perhaps.
 
Well, you know how a replicator can make things like communicators and tricorders, can a replicator make a replicator?

Then that would really be all he'd need to create just about anything.

But he probably is greedier than that, or not as confident perhaps.

A replicator would be useless without a significant source of energy (from which to create matter) or a source of raw, simple, elements from which to construct more complicated atoms and items.

It doesn't pull stuff out of thin air, the matter it creates must come from somewhere and needs a significant power source.
 
We have the self-replicating mines from DS9 to prove that it's doable under certain circumstances.

Probably you'd need a rather specialized replicator to get over the various efficiency problems associated with von Neumanning. But as far as energy and raw material feed goes, a smallish space battle (say, a ship exploding against one mine, or a death ray detonating one mine) apparently will provide enough.

Then again, "Rasmussen" might never come to think of that. And the items he hoped he could steal were all very compact, while the smallest utility replicator we've seen (in "Survivors") was fridge-sized, and the units built into Exocomps supposedly weren't anything like standard gear.

What "Rasmussen" could have done is steal an item, duplicate it in a replicator, and return the original before anybody notices. From "Rivals", we know that absolutely perfect copying is quite possible without any special user skills or dedicated "industrial" or "scientific" or "engineering" replicators.

Timo Saloniemi
 
We have the self-replicating mines from DS9 to prove that it's doable under certain circumstances.

Those mines made a new mind either using an internal energy/matter source to produce the new mine or used the energy of detonated mine to create the new one. Or a combination of both. They didn't just make a new mine out of literally nothing.
 
"Out of nothing" would not be a requirement, as "Rasmussen" doesn't live in a cold vacuum. He would have had at least some sort of resources available; it would depend on the replicator whether it would accept the input and create a viable copy of itself.

I trust nicking a standard food replicator wouldn't do the trick yet. But nicking a standard food replicator and a Starfleet engineer (or a Klingon Imperial Intelligence agent! See "Visionary") would be enough to turn that food replicator into just about anything "Rasmussen" could ever dream of wanting.

Timo Saloniemi
 
I watched this one back when Robin Williams died. I wonder how different it might have been if he'd have had the "time" to do it.

Anyway. Long convoluted story when all the guy had to do was research some football (or baseball) results and hit the bookies back in 22nd Century New Jersey.

ETA - Do you guys in the States know what "bookies" are? Bookmakers. I'm talking about gambling (which it isn't if you know the outcome)
 
"Out of nothing" would not be a requirement, as "Rasmussen" doesn't live in a cold vacuum. He would have had at least some sort of resources available; it would depend on the replicator whether it would accept the input and create a viable copy of itself.

Timo Saloniemi

That's what I was thinking, won't they have electricity in 22nd century NJ?

I watched this one back when Robin Williams died. I wonder how different it might have been if he'd have had the "time" to do it.

Anyway. Long convoluted story when all the guy had to do was research some football (or baseball) results and hit the bookies back in 22nd Century New Jersey.

ETA - Do you guys in the States know what "bookies" are? Bookmakers. I'm talking about gambling (which it isn't if you know the outcome)

That's a great point, but I wonder if would be considered too much a riff of "Back to the Future" which used that also.

And I am familiar with the term Bookie, I didn't think it was limited to a certain area.
 
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