TMP-DE fully restored in 4K…it’s about time!

Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies I-X' started by Warped9, Jul 7, 2021.

  1. jaime

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    Tracy Island!
     
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  2. drt

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    Particularly since one of the first things Kirk says is, "Here? At Starfleet?"

    I watched the 2022 DE again last night, I'm not a huge fan of how they decided every bridge control panel light needs to make a distinct noise when it lights up if visible in a close up shot.
     
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    Perhaps Instagram has increased awareness of it, but vignette is an old visual 'effect' in photography, sometimes unintentional and sometimes a deliberate artistic choice to guide the viewer's eye. I do think it's a little weird here.

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    I remember during the making-of on the initial 2001 release that they really tried to sell the new establishing shots of San Francisco as being bright and pollution free. Both the theatrical (To the best of it's ability) and the original Director's Edition reflect that. In fact, there was a preview for the 4K DC on twitter where you can see the phases of the redone establishing shots without the vignette effect and it looks so much better.

    Why would you want to throw shade on a bright sunny day when the TMP theme is playing triumphantly in the background? It's a good thing I subscribe to the 'Sound dominates picture" camp else I'd put the 2001 cut over this, standard definition and all.
     
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    Great question.
     
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    On the bonus disk, does anyone know the origin of that shot they use for the main menu? It’s a shot of the bridge, looking aft from the helm/navigation console at the captains chair and science station.
     
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    Ah, I miss the days when DVD/Blu-ray menus were art froms in and of themselves. This particular one looks to be a test shot of the set and it's props. You can tell that it's not final because Spock's science station has an office wheely chair.
     
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    Yes, I noticed that as well.

    Honestly, it's a really gorgeous shot...
     
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    To be fair, there already two shots of that point of view of the Enterprise before they fired at the asteroid.
     
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    Finally got the BD version of the new directors edition. Overall, I enjoyed it. But.... man that lounge scene is reeeeal rough. Kirk's and McCoy's face look absolutely deformed in parts of that scene. They address it in the new commentary by referring to it as their "problem child". They really should have left it as it was rather than deform the faces of the actors. If this was how it was going to be released, I imagine Shatner and Kelley would have quite a bit to say about it. I don't know if this is a complaint or not, but with all the recompiling that was done... maybe some things are too clear now. Matte lines are now easy to spot, where I didn't notice them in previously.
     
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    Jeez.. shame on me for not proof reading (I don't see an edit button) corrections should read... if this is how it was going to be released in 1979... and recompositing, not recompiling. Sorry for the double post.
     
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    You get the edit button after a certain number of posts and a certain amount of time after registration, as a safeguard against new accounts opened purely for vandalism.
     
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    Which is funny, because it's a problem of their own making. Reminds me of that meme where a guy riding a bike leans over and puts a stick in his own spokes and then blames someone else for doing it.
     
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    The lounge scene really looks like a good attempt that was abandoned as a WIP (Edit: I'm not saying that's actually what happened, just that the look of it brings a WIP to mind) as does the air tram terminal. Every time I watch either of them I notice more little oddities. McCoy's feet are very well rotoscoped at one point, but his feet have no shadows whatsoever until he walks into the existing floorspace, and the added wall/floor behind him has frozen grain unlike the floor he steps on to. Not remotely as bad as his face disappearing, but still worth noting.
     
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    Bring on the First Contact 4K and my Star Trek 4K collection will be complete! (Will have to swing back to get 09 in 4K)
     
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    In the final push-in on Kirk where they replaced Spock and McCoy's armbands, Spock's orange one flips back to blue before it goes off screen. Did any of the DE shots get completed before release? ;)

    Interesting that a film that famously remained unfinished for so many years now has a "final cut" whose legacy might just be one of unfinished polishing.
     
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    Most people think that was left in deliberately as an homage to the original actors' on set joke.
     
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    I don't understand. What would be the point of going to the trouble replacing both armbands, only to have one of them glitch out? That's more reality breaking than just leaving the shot the way it was.
     
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    Well, most people, including myself, didn't really notice it to be honest. It's a 43 year old movie and it's astonishing that it looks as good as it does. The homage is far less intrusive or noticeable to most people.

    Maybe a Q did it? ;-p
     
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    I guess I wasn’t expecting perfection in the first place with the DE.
     
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