Titan and The Fall news

[The Wormhole]

The new timeline is still set in the same 'universe', only the history has changed, right? However, the purpose of the reboot was not to change history but to ged rid off an accumulated continuity.

Everything that happened before Nero's arrival and subsequent destruction of the Kelvin is supposed to be the same between the two timelines.

 

[Markonian]

Everything that happened before Nero's arrival and subsequent destruction of the Kelvin is supposed to be the same between the two timelines.

Yes, but as Christopher said, the continuity is a means to an end. Thus, I wouldn't be surprised if they adapted 'past' events to suit their storytelling (cf. Landru's story in Star Trek Ongoing). I am not complaining, though. Just speculating.

Any other Titan or The Fall news? Are we still on-topic?

 

[ryan123450]

Still off topic...

I haven't read it, so are you saying Landru's ancient history is different in the nu-verse?

 

[JWolf]

"When's DS9 going to catch up with all the other novels? When's DS9 going to catch up with all the other novels? When's DS9 going to catch up with all the other novels? When's DS9 going to catch up with all the other novels? When's DS9 going to catch up with all the other novels?"

"Why did DS9 have to catch up with all the other novels? Why did DS9 have to catch up with all the other novels? Why did DS9 have to catch up with all the other novels? Why did DS9 have to catch up with all the other novels? Why did DS9 have to catch up with all the other novels?"

"When's VOY going to catch up with all the other novels? When's VOY going to catch up with all the other novels? When's VOY going to catch up with all the other novels? When's VOY going to catch up with all the other novels? When's VOY going to catch up with all the other novels?"

We are not there yet.

 

[BillJ]

Still off topic...

I haven't read it, so are you saying Landru's ancient history is different in the nu-verse?

Yup...

Spoiler: Star Trek 9-10

It was all a Starfleet experiment.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

^ Then again, since the diversion happened in 2233 - well after Landru - it must have been that way all along.

 

[Markonian]

^ Then again, since the diversion happened in 2233 - well after Landru - it must have been that way all along.

Maybe. I can't judge that, I haven't been able to read the comics yet. However, I thought Landru was much older in TOS? As in centuries old.

 

[Christopher]

Landru lived 6000 years before the episode, IIRC.

However, from what I've gathered about the comic book's version, it's possible that it could simply be revealing an unsuspected truth that the characters in the original episode failed to discover, rather than depicting an altered version of the timeline. Remember, what people believe is true about the past isn't always true.

 

[ryan123450]

Although I know most people don't agree with me, and it isn't the filmaker intent, I still choose to see the entire nu-verse as an alternate reality before the temporal incursion and the Spock from the future not as the exact Spock we knew before. This tidbit could be interpreted to lend credence to that viewpoint. Though I will admit Christopher's interpretation could be true as well.

 

[Danlav05]

Do you think they would use a concept introduced by another series than TOS?

They already did. Uhura ordered two Cardassian sunrises in the bar scene. They referenced Admiral Archer. The term "katric ark" is from Enterprise, though they used it differently in the movie. Spock Prime's implicitly friendly relations with the Romulans seem to be an outgrowth of his work among them established in TNG: "Unification" and the Federation-Romulan detente seen in the Dominion War arc on DS9 and in Nemesis. And if you're defining "other than TOS" literally, the Spock childhood scenes are basically a rewrite of scenes from the animated series's "Yesteryear," and there are references to the Kolinahr from TMP and the Kobayashi Maru simulation from TWOK.

One of the writers is a fan of The Next Generation, and oobviously Old Spock's character arc continues from that, plus he stated inspiration came from 'Yesterday's Enterprise'

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

^ Then again, since the diversion happened in 2233 - well after Landru - it must have been that way all along.

Maybe. I can't judge that, I haven't been able to read the comics yet. However, I thought Landru was much older in TOS? As in centuries old.

The only thing we have to go on as per Landru's age is the mutterings of the people on the planet. Just because they say Landru is of a certain age, or that the establishment of the 'Body' happened a certain amount of time ago, doesn't mean it's true. It could be deliberate misinformation spread by the Body. If what the Abramsverse comics established about Landru turns out to be true, it wouldn't violate a stitch of continuity.

And it would certainly explain why, among other things, the natives of Beta III looked so completely human.

 

[BillJ]

But doesn't the comic say that there is only a single settlement on Beta III-A? If so, where did the hollow tubes that shoot and the lighting panels that Spock describes as beyond Federation technology come from?

LINDSTROM: Well, this is simply ridiculous. A bunch of stone age characters running around in robes.
SPOCK: And apparently commanding powers far beyond our comprehension. Not simple, not ridiculous. Very, very dangerous.