Timelines and Ambiguities

[SPCTRE]

 

[F. King Daniel]

*SPCTRE's birthday suddenly jumps back by two months*

 

[SPCTRE]

Oh noez!

 

[Timo]

Would what I said be a good guide to start with?

Sorry, I don't quite know which bit. Although all you have said so far seems to have been spot on!

It says that the main story begins 3 years after the prologue.

Imagine Sisko counting the years since the devastating event. "Emissary" is a tad more than two years after Wolf 359 by stardate reckoning, so Sisko would be counting "I've suffered for one year, now I'm suffering the second, now I have suffered for two years and I'm suffering the third now".

If we logically assume that xx500 is the midpoint of the year

Actually, the logical thing would be to assume that the year starts when the Paramount season does, because that's how the real-world events in the episodes are dated... So the zeroes roll over in late September. This is consistent with a couple of datapoints and inconsistent with none: it drops the Festival of Lights in the right slot in "Data's Day", allows for First Contact anniversary in "Homestead", and gives roughly appropriate weather for northern France in "Family".

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Enterprise1701]

It says that the main story begins 3 years after the prologue.

Imagine Sisko counting the years since the devastating event. "Emissary" is a tad more than two years after Wolf 359 by stardate reckoning, so Sisko would be counting "I've suffered for one year, now I'm suffering the second, now I have suffered for two years and I'm suffering the third now".

It was an onscreen caption like the opening crawl, not a musing by Sisko.

If we logically assume that xx500 is the midpoint of the year

Actually, the logical thing would be to assume that the year starts when the Paramount season does, because that's how the real-world events in the episodes are dated... So the zeroes roll over in late September. This is consistent with a couple of datapoints and inconsistent with none: it drops the Festival of Lights in the right slot in "Data's Day", allows for First Contact anniversary in "Homestead", and gives roughly appropriate weather for northern France in "Family".

Timo Saloniemi

Deep Space Nine's first season was a short one and ran from January to June. Thus "Emissary" (stardates 46379.1 to 46393.1) was broadcast almost concurrently with the previous December's TNG arc "Chain of Command" (stardates 46357.4 to 46360.8), which mentioned the Cardassian withdrawal from the Bajor sector.

I concede that you have a fair point, though.

 

[CuttingEdge100]

Timo

Sorry, I don't quite know which bit. Although all you have said so far seems to have been spot on!

That's good to know...

[quote[]Imagine Sisko counting the years since the devastating event. "Emissary" is a tad more than two years after Wolf 359 by stardate reckoning, so Sisko would be counting "I've suffered for one year, now I'm suffering the second, now I have suffered for two years and I'm suffering the third now".[/quote]I don't think that was said... regardless the opening said 3 years later...

So the zeroes roll over in late September. This is consistent with a couple of datapoints and inconsistent with none: it drops the Festival of Lights in the right slot in "Data's Day", allows for First Contact anniversary in "Homestead", and gives roughly appropriate weather for northern France in "Family".

Probably true with TOS and TNG

So the final issue is the 5 year mission start-date: 2264 or 2265? A lot of sources say '65 but earlier I remember hearing '64?

Regardless for Star Trek II, III, IV, and IV seem to flow right along together which is really convenient

• Star Trek II starts Star Date 8130.3
• It's Kirk's 49th Birthday: It was deleted from the plot, but was intended
• Kirk's Birthday was January 04, 2233 in the alternate timeline
• Therefore it would be 2282

Admittedly this doesn't run congruent with the Romulan Ale having a date of 2283 on it, but it's possible that it was a joke about how "fresh" it was. If I got a bottle of booze that said it would be ready next year, I'd probably look at it funny too.

Regardless some questions

• How early would stress trigger a premature birth?

Regardless

• 8210.3 is 80 days after Star Trek II began
• Star Trek IV is 8390.0 or 259.7 days after Star Trek II began, and 179.3 days after TSFS started
• Star Trek V starts on 8454.1, which is 323.8 days after ST2, 243.8 days after TSFS, and 64 days after the previous movie

Sound good?