Timelinegeddon - Grand Universe Unification Theories

[Jinn]

Imagine the mess episodes like "Cause and Effect" and "Magic to Make the Sanest Man Go Mad" would cause if each time travel split off an alternate reality.

Glorious, isn't it?

 

[SPCTRE]

that's exactly what happens, it's just never discussed

 

[F. King Daniel]

[Hearing at the end of Star Trek IV]

PRESIDENT: You abandoned your timeline to perish horribly so you could create this seperate one where everything turns out okay. Have a new Enterprise.


Oh god, it's Rick and Morty with fancy uniforms.

 

[SPCTRE]

heyyyyyyyyyy it's Pickle Pike!

 

[Captain Crow]

[Pushes up non-existent horn rim glasses that are actually a pair of cheap magnifier glasses from a grocery store]

Dealing with Star Trek's three conflicting universes (Desilu Productions/Paramount Television universe, Filmation Universe, and Tommy Westphall Universe) is quite simple.

1. Send a T-800 to Boston between October 26, 1982 and May 25, 1988 to "rectify" the Tommy Westphall Universe.

B. Simply ignore the Filmation Universe like everyone else has for the past couple of decades.

Thus leaving you with the Desilu Productions/Paramount Television universe. TEH ONLY REALZ STAR TREK!11!1111!1111!!!! .

 

[TrickyDickie]

Trapped on a franchise gone mad....

 

[Lord Garth]

I miss the movie-era logo.

 

[F. King Daniel]

I miss the movie-era logo.

I used to love it until DS9 and Voyager used it. Then I got bored.

 

[Unimatrix Q]

Maybe all the previous shows and movies weren't set in the prime time line but we were watching different parallel universes all the time. Some with minor changes to the earlier stuff and some with bigger changes. What i mean with this is that every episode with the possible exception of the two parters and the multi episode story arcs may be set in a different universe. Similar to what happened with Worf in "Parallels" we as viewers may have been switching parallel universes all the time.

Maybe Discovery is the first show where all episodes are set in the same Universe.
So we could say it's set in the prime timeline

 

[Awesome Possum]

Maybe it’s just a show and everyone should relax.

 

[dahj]

Maybe it’s just a show and everyone should relax.

But in which timeline do we relax?

 

[Jinn]

But in which timeline do we relax?

Not the Klingon War timeline, that's for damn sure!

 

[TrickyDickie]

But in which timeline do we relax?

How wise....how pithy.

 

[dahj]

Not the Klingon War timeline, that's for damn sure!

But which Klingon War?

 

[Jinn]

But which Klingon War?

All of them.

 

[johnnybear]

That's not how it worked in ST09. Nero's interference caused the Kelvin timeline to branch off in 2233, but the original wasn't erased. Both exist alongside each other.



Also not true. Whatever your feelings regarding DSC, it's indisputable that ENT is part of the original timeline (otherwise, please explain the Defiant).

That said, I admit I'm amused by the sheer volume of people who seem to think they know more about DSC than its own creators do. You don't have to like DSC if you don't want to, of course. But if the people making it, say that it's part of the prime timeline (which they have)...then who are we to question them? Nobody can know more about something than those making that thing.

I'm one of those that believes that ENT is also part of another reality! The future guy and his temporal cold war altered events in the past to create a new timeline which is quite different to the one we do know of in TOS! The Xindi attack upon the earth never happened in the TOS reality and that is another piece of evidence along with the Borg drones who took some of the humans back with them into outer space and changed the history of the Borg with that as well!
JB

 

[dahj]

All of them.

Well the Mirror Universe one went rather splendidly for the Terrans, though there's not much relaxing there by default...

 

[Jinn]

Well the Mirror Universe one went rather splendidly for the Terrans, though there's not much relaxing there by default...

Well, my eyes don't suck, so I'm no Terran

 

[dahj]

Well, my eyes don't suck

That's not what your avatar says

 

[johnnybear]

Yes, Gruenwald was the editor of Avengers when Roger Stern was the writer. When Gruenwald starting developing these rules, Roger Stern wrote a story in which Kang the Conqueror seeks to eliminate his divergent selves that were created each time he time travelled. It's in Avengers #s 267-269. It's been collected a few times, most recently in the Avengers Epic Collection: Under Siege. That's the one I'd recommend getting, since it also includes my all-time favorite Avengers story, the Mansion Siege saga.

I've got that set of comics somewhere! I loved how Kang was supposed to be all these different characters in the MU! first he was Nathaniel Richards, then Pharoah Rama-Tut, then Kang the Conqueror who rules the future earth and much later on Immortus god of time! The story reminded me of a way that the Terminator franchise could clean up it's act!
JB
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