Time Warp

[c0rnedfr0g]

Has this ever been fleshed out a bit more in literature or manuals?

For instance, can it be any star for the slingshot, or must it be a yellow dwarf? Or would different types of stars alter the speed with which you enter the time warp?

Is there one speed for time warp, or does varying the speed vary how far back in time you go?

Does making multiple revolutions around the sun send a ship farther back in time?

How do you go forward in time? Approach it from the opposite side from which you entered or exited the original time warp?

It looks like the BoP (in TVH) approaches the sun rougly in the same plane as which the planets orbig. What would happen if it had approached from a perpendicular angle?

Am I thinking about this too much?

 

[Praetor]

I really thought this was going to be about Captain Pike calling the warp drive 'time warp' in the unaired portions of 'The Cage.'

Who's really overthinking here?

I'm guessing since in STIV, Spock had to make seemingly complex computations, said to involve speed, mass, and so forth, that there are 'degrees' to which one can travel back in time relative to the warp factor involved, the size of the star, the 'angle of attack' and generally any other minute factor involved.

 

[JNG]

I can't say much except I think it behooves us to envision this technique as extraordinarily difficult, with many, many things that can go wrong if the smallest detail of the angle, warp factor, type of star, or any other imaginable factor is even the tiniest bit off. By "go wrong," I don't just mean "end up at the wrong point in time;" rather, given the seeming difficulties and dangers of using warp drive close to a star like that, I suspect error or bad luck could easily result in destruction.

Furthermore, I don't think this technique was ever disseminated, even within Starfleet's highest ranks, and is probably a secret that may remain an achievement of Our TOS Heroes only.

 

[Praetor]

JNG, kudos for using 'behooves.'

 

[Delta1]

I really thought this was going to be about Captain Pike calling the warp drive 'time warp' in the unaired portions of 'The Cage.'

Who's really overthinking here?

Not me. I thought it was going to be about the catchy song and dance number from RHPS.

 

[Ronald Held]

I thought any ship could do it around a star of high enough gravitational field and some minimum warp speed?

 

[Mysterion]

I really thought this was going to be about Captain Pike calling the warp drive 'time warp' in the unaired portions of 'The Cage.'

Who's really overthinking here?

Not me. I thought it was going to be about the catchy song and dance number from RHPS.

It's just a step to the left, you know.

 

[Praetor]

I really thought this was going to be about Captain Pike calling the warp drive 'time warp' in the unaired portions of 'The Cage.'

Who's really overthinking here?

Not me. I thought it was going to be about the catchy song and dance number from RHPS.

It's just a step to the left, you know.

Let's do the time warp agaaaaain.

 

[SicOne]

No, no, no, Mysterion...it's a jump to the left, and a step to the riiiiiii-aye-ight!

But this all might be lost on our younger posters.

 

[Mysterion]

No, no, no, Mysterion...it's a jump to the left, and a step to the riiiiiii-aye-ight!

But this all might be lost on our younger posters.

You are correct, sir. In my defense, it has been about 30 years since I've seen RHPS.

 

[SicOne]

Picked it up on the sale rack at a used book store just two weeks back and watched it with my teenagers (who thought it was a tad bizarre). But was surprised to discover how much of it I remembered from college, back in The Day.

 

[suneel44]

How many sets of wraps do I have? Wraps by sets of 2 and bandages by sets of 4. So for example if you think I have 1 pillow and 1 no-bow and a 1 set of knit bandages you would say 2 wraps and 1 bandage. Who ever gets closest to the actual number wins! And try and guess what colors I have. That way if there is a tie we have a tie breaker allready set up. And yes, you can use the colors from the photo above.
So let the games begin. You have until Thursday to submit your entries. Good Luck!!!

 

[Praetor]

Oh, bots.

It occurred to me while watching 'The Naked Time' the other day that when the Enterprise is flung back in time when the engines are imploded, Kirk almost immediately spouts the words 'A time warp!' as if recognizing what it was. Spock seems to make clear that this is a new thing, but maybe there was an older type of time warp more along the lines of space-time warp that allowed the crew of Pike's era to cross that almost mythical Time Barrier...?

 

[SicOne]

You know, in the two issues of "Star Trek:Crew" comic by IDW, mention is made of time-warp drive.

 

[Praetor]

Really? Nice bit of continuity. I need to pick that up.

 

[SicOne]

It's OK. Not spectacular, but OK. I'd wait for the trade, then just quick-read it at Barnes and Noble.

 

[JNG]

Oh, bots.

It occurred to me while watching 'The Naked Time' the other day that when the Enterprise is flung back in time when the engines are imploded, Kirk almost immediately spouts the words 'A time warp!' as if recognizing what it was. Spock seems to make clear that this is a new thing, but maybe there was an older type of time warp more along the lines of space-time warp that allowed the crew of Pike's era to cross that almost mythical Time Barrier...?

Perhaps Spock was pitching it that way because on Vulcan, they were still teaching that time travel was impossible?

 

[Praetor]

Oh, bots.

It occurred to me while watching 'The Naked Time' the other day that when the Enterprise is flung back in time when the engines are imploded, Kirk almost immediately spouts the words 'A time warp!' as if recognizing what it was. Spock seems to make clear that this is a new thing, but maybe there was an older type of time warp more along the lines of space-time warp that allowed the crew of Pike's era to cross that almost mythical Time Barrier...?

Perhaps Spock was pitching it that way because on Vulcan, they were still teaching that time travel was impossible?

Say, I like the way you think.

Kirk did latch onto the concept pretty quickly...

I would frankly be surprised if this was the very first case of inadvertent time travel. Surely relativity caused some accidents here and there - ships coming back to port years too late and such. I wonder, though, if this might have been the first recorded backwards travel.

 

[Timo]

I'd say the dialogue would be consistent with the idea that time warps happen all the time, but they have never been controllable before this incident. That is, nobody has previously been able to initiate a time warp by pressing a button - but it has happened to a few ships as part of a major malfunction ("warp engines imploding" sounds like a malfuction to me!), and perhaps just a few of those past time travelers have survived to tell the tale.

Now our heroes did it deliberately, and survived - so intentional time travel now becomes possible by this method. Whether it's the only time travel method known to our heroes... Probably not. They aren't any more surprised the next time around, when they use the slingshot tech, nor when they encounter the Guardian of Forever. Time travel probably is an established phenomenon, but there are always new and more practical time travel methods to be found.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Plecostomus]

Furthermore, I don't think this technique was ever disseminated, even within Starfleet's highest ranks, and is probably a secret that may remain an achievement of Our TOS Heroes only.

Balderdash. Took me 30 seconds with Google:

It's just a jump to the left
And then a step to the right
With your hands on your hips
You bring your knees in tight
But it's the pelvic thrust that really drives you insane...