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time travel and dinosaurs, but it's not sci fi

Temis the Vorta

Temis the Vorta

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When will these clowns ever learn? :rommie: Go ahead and implicitly insult sci fi fans, but NOT ON TEH INTERNETS! which has been overrun by roving hordes of sci fi fans since it existed and even before. Do it, I dunno, in Family Circle where the people who are scared of sci fi will be reading and sci fi fans will never learn the difference.

For the online publications, you looooove sci fi, you live and breathe sci fi, you'll shoehorn all the dinosaurs into this show you can fit, and maybe a few aliens and mutants on the side. Do these people not have any media consultants?

And that's not even considering whether a sci fi show can survive on network TV anymore. Try to hide the content all you want, but the time travel and dinosaurs in the actual show is going to give away the game. If the general audience is so terrified of sci fi, they'll tune out at that point. What is the point of being coy?

And I got all comfy in my Recliner of Rage before I even saw Braga's name, so this isn't all about him. Nyah. :p
 
If the premise of a show requires that a family through time, then yes, I'm sorry, but you just made a scifi show. How is NOT a scifi show?! Do they know what science fiction is? :wtf:

I also like how the article says that Braga worked on "all three" Star Trek shows, then in the next sentence goes on to list a fourth, while completely ignoring the fact that there are actually 5 (6 if you count TAS). Dumb.
 
Braga, of course, is a sci-fi superstar, having worked on all three Star Trek series (Voyager, Next Generation and Enterprise).
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Because, y'know, DS9 isn't a Star Trek series.
And Rene Echevarria, also an executive producer on Terra Nova, worked with Braga on Star Trek: Deep Space Nine.
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Oh wait, I guess it is. :lol:

[Edit] Heh, beat me to it, RoHoJen. :D
 
Maybe they can call it "Robinson Family Lost In Time" Where is the Robot repreating "Danger Will Robinson !" while dinosours chasing them ?
 
If it's good enough to pull in a wide audience, it won't matter whether they've dissed the skiffy fans.

If it isn't, the fans aren't numerous enough to save it.
 
Dennis said:
If it's good enough to pull in a wide audience, it won't matter whether they've dissed the skiffy fans.

If it isn't, the fans aren't numerous enough to save it.
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That's hardly the point. If you have a show involving time travel and dinosaurs, saying it's not scifi just isn't going to do anything. People are going to figure it out!
 
Sure it's the point. Most people won't care what it is if they like it, but will ignore something that looks too skiffy in the advertising and publicity.
 
Dennis said:
Sure it's the point. Most people won't care what it is if they like it, but will ignore something that looks too skiffy in the advertising and publicity.
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I guess, but I just don't see this plan working. First of all, the show has a very scifi-sounding title. Terra Nova? Come on.

This advertising campaign is making a huge assumption about the stupidity of people.
 
I also like how the article says that Braga worked on "all three" Star Trek shows,
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If he worked on TOS, then time travel must be involved, unless he's a dinosaur. :rommie:

But comedy aside, what's really going on in the article is that it's a trade publication, so they're talking to TV industry people who aren't the audience for the show anyway. The spin is to say, "we know the general audience hates sci fi, so we're going to market it as not sci fi, even though it's obviously sci fi." The whole thing is ridiculous, but marketing spin so often is.

This advertising campaign is making a huge assumption about the stupidity of people.
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Advertising campaigns almost always assume consumers are morons.
 
If you've never heard Braga in interviews before, then I'm not surprised at your reaction.
He's a smug, self-aggrandizing, arrogant, ass.

That alone made me dislike him, and wary of any of his involvement in future storytelling endeavors. (Then of course there was Threshold)

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Oops, I read the article after I posted, so didn't realize that Braga never actually said the "Not Sci-fi" line.

However, I did notice Rene Echevarria's attached and that is currently the only reason I'd give this show a chance.
 
just like with the Sci-Fi channel...its that high school mentality carrying over into the adult world... nobody wants to admit they sit at the nerd table.
 
Sadly, the prejudice against sci fi on network TV (cable is another story) seems justified by the number of sci fi series, not all of which sucked horribly, that have not been able to get survival-level ratings on network TV. I think there's just a mismatch between the needs of broadcast network TV in terms of audience and the audience levels that any given sci fi series can be expected to get.

Media companies should stop trying to craft sci fi for broadcast and start developing more sf/f shows for their cable outlets. That's happening to some extent now anyway. But the specter of broadcast's future being nothing but the dullest, most canned show types spanning a limited number of types must be severely demoralizing, compared with cable, which is where all the interesting stuff is happening.
 
I have no idea why Sci-Fi became a worse label to get than 'liberal'.

It's not like the public hates Sci-Fi. Look at the top grossing movies of all-time. Avatar, ET, Star Wars. I'm pretty sure if you go back the last 20 or 30 years you'll always find at least one Sci-Fi movie in the top-10 grossing films of the year.

Yet for somehow when it comes to TV it becomes a dirty word. Maybe it's because on network TV they write Sci-Fi horribly and try to water it down for the masses thinking that's how they need to make it more of a draw.

Is Fringe a super ratings power-house? No. But it's managed to hold its own while in horrible time-slots since it's debut against some of the most popular established shows on TV and it hasn't had to sell itself out and be a watered down stand-alone series.
 
RoJoHen said:
If the premise of a show requires that a family through time, then yes, I'm sorry, but you just made a scifi show. How is NOT a scifi show?! Do they know what science fiction is? :wtf:
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It's also quite possible that they made a fantasy show, which is certainly what this sounds like to me. ;)
 
RoJoHen said:
Dennis said:
Sure it's the point. Most people won't care what it is if they like it, but will ignore something that looks too skiffy in the advertising and publicity.
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I guess, but I just don't see this plan working. First of all, the show has a very scifi-sounding title. Terra Nova? Come on.

This advertising campaign is making a huge assumption about the stupidity of people.
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I don't think anyone hates scifi fans as much as Dennis. :)

They ought to call it Prime Evil.
 
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