I tend to agree but I shall reserve final judgement until we see it onscreen rather than a few pictures.
Thunderbirds Are Go - 2015 Series
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I tend to agree but I shall reserve final judgement until we see it onscreen rather than a few pictures.
* He's dead
* He faked his own death to see how his sons would manage without him.
* He's alive but The Hood has him locked up in prison or the body is kept in stasis somewhere, so that he can someday be used as blackmail.
* Jeff Tracy became evil and is actually the true mastermind behind everything.
* Jeff Tracy is really The Hood.
I'm guessing #3. He didn't bring it up at all at the end while talking with Kayo, which would have been an obvious point to smirk or something - but we've got 26 episodes to figure it out.
[Aside - while re-watching that very scene, I noticed that two of the military guys that walked up with Colonel Casey were identical, including the hairstyle and moustaches. Not surprising considering the budget of a show like this, and I suspect we'll notice a lot of this in future episodes. The Hood's trio of thugs were also clones, but at least they were wearing masks.]
Also, I commented earlier that Kayo's new ride looked very much like the YF-21 from Macross Plus, designed by Shoji Kawamori. Well, lo and behold, the TB-S (sic) was designed by... Shoji Kawamori! It's pretty cool that they'd reach out across the seas (from England or New Zealand, take your pick) to get his collaboration both as a sci-fi design wizard and old school Thunderbirds fan.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/new...signs-new-cg-thunderbirds-series-plane/.86850
Mark
[Aside - while re-watching that very scene, I noticed that two of the military guys that walked up with Colonel Casey were identical, including the hairstyle and moustaches. Not surprising considering the budget of a show like this, and I suspect we'll notice a lot of this in future episodes. The Hood's trio of thugs were also clones, but at least they were wearing masks.]
Also, I commented earlier that Kayo's new ride looked very much like the YF-21 from Macross Plus, designed by Shoji Kawamori. Well, lo and behold, the TB-S (sic) was designed by... Shoji Kawamori! It's pretty cool that they'd reach out across the seas (from England or New Zealand, take your pick) to get his collaboration both as a sci-fi design wizard and old school Thunderbirds fan.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/new...signs-new-cg-thunderbirds-series-plane/.86850
Mark
I thought it was alright, though I felt it had a lot of flaws. The pacing was way too fast, there wasn't a single quiet scene in that whole two-parter. Also the character's personalities weren't all that appealing, too much wisecracking and generally acting like jerks. That countdown whenever they launch got old real fast, I really hope we don't have to hear it EVERY time they launch. Some of the character's looks were a bit off too, particularly Lady Penelope who looks more like a Barbie doll than anything else.
I doubt it will be as well remembered as the 1960s original. This is pretty much ITV cashing in on a well known brand and hoping it sells enough toys to make it worthwhile.
I doubt it will be as well remembered as the 1960s original. This is pretty much ITV cashing in on a well known brand and hoping it sells enough toys to make it worthwhile.
That's pretty unfair. The original has had almost FIFTY YEARS to be "well remembered", and a redo is always going to get a lot of vocal opposition.
Of course it won't be as "fondly remembered" as the landscape of TV has changed so much since it first aired in the mid-sixties. A couple of broadcasters then and now... hundreds? Children's television has altered considerably, there's a lot more competition.
I think if this series can carve out its own fanbase, continue to strike the balance between respecting the original but still appealing to a new audience, and yes sell lots of toys (THAT'S NOT A BAD THING!) then it will do just fine.
(I do agree that a few slower-paced scenes might not be a bad thing for future episodes!)
Though if they are doing all the shows in half hour formats I don't think that's going to help with the pacing.
Perhaps a better approach would to the make each ep a 2 part story.
The original eps ran about 50mins though sometimes they had to pad them out a bit mainly with extended launch sequences.
Perhaps with the new series we won't see as many launch sequences.
They did that with the Canadian Tintin series, and it worked very well.
If I sounded a bit harsh there I do apologize. The Effects work for instance (puppet-esque heads aside) was great. At this point I hope many of the negatives are just down to it being a new series and that it improves with time.
I see that ITV have already stuck it on at 8am Saturday morning (though there is a 3pm Sunday repeat) a time that will not doubt prove inconvenient for many. They really should've kept it on at 5pm since it was a time that the adults could easily check it out too.
The pacing could be much improved and as one of those kids that in the early 90s was watching the old Thunderbirds I had no problems with the running time.
I see that ITV have already stuck it on at 8am Saturday morning (though there is a 3pm Sunday repeat) a time that will not doubt prove inconvenient for many. They really should've kept it on at 5pm since it was a time that the adults could easily check it out too.
The pacing could be much improved and as one of those kids that in the early 90s was watching the old Thunderbirds I had no problems with the running time.
From comments before the show aired, it seems the 8am timeslot was always intended destination. I'd hazard a guess that kids shows in the time sort of time slot are never an hour long (the Original TBirds is the only kids shows I can recall being 60mins).
The 5pm Saturday timeslot - is that one that generally takes and hour long program if to so that could partially explain why the new Thunderbirds didn't get it.
Maybe if they did all the eps as two parters as I mentioned upthread they could have shown them together as a hour long ep but also repeated later in the 8am slot.
I don't mind the half hour format - if I ever had one criticism of the original, it's that sometimes the pacing was so dreadfully slow (even for me in the early 1980s), is was occasionally hard to watch, DESPITE having the extra time to admire the details of the sets and machines. I mean, HOW much time should you dedicate to two characters walking silently down a corridor? Sixty seconds not enough? Well, have an extra fifteen!
I exaggerate of course, but I think this new iteration can find a happy medium without seeming rushed or overly paced. It's not just the story, it's also calming down the constant camera movement which only adds to the perception of constant action. I'm sure they can hit a proper stride in terms of production, while slowly adding to the library of characters and models that will make the product only continuously improve.
Mark
I exaggerate of course, but I think this new iteration can find a happy medium without seeming rushed or overly paced. It's not just the story, it's also calming down the constant camera movement which only adds to the perception of constant action. I'm sure they can hit a proper stride in terms of production, while slowly adding to the library of characters and models that will make the product only continuously improve.
Mark
The pacing for the new series is perfect. If you focus 80% of the time on the rescue and 20% for everything else then you keep the attention span of today's kids.
I don't mind Brains is now Indian.
I was apprehensive that Jeff was absent, but the dynamic between the five brothers holds the series well.
I'm glad Kyrano is gone. His character serves no purpose. Also happy Tin Tin has been reimagined.
I've missed all the scenes with the Hood due to phone calls etc so can't comment on how he looks.
In fact the only thing I'm having issues with are some of the FX shots combining physical and cgi shots. The shots of Penelope driving or the whole reflector dish crashing down the mountain were poorly realised.
I don't mind Brains is now Indian.
I was apprehensive that Jeff was absent, but the dynamic between the five brothers holds the series well.
I'm glad Kyrano is gone. His character serves no purpose. Also happy Tin Tin has been reimagined.
I've missed all the scenes with the Hood due to phone calls etc so can't comment on how he looks.
In fact the only thing I'm having issues with are some of the FX shots combining physical and cgi shots. The shots of Penelope driving or the whole reflector dish crashing down the mountain were poorly realised.
'Space Race' was a good episode but a poor choice for the all-important ep3 slot. Straight out of the pilot and we're limited to a single Thunderbird storyline, which, let's be honest, is a bit of a self indulged story.
TB3 was seen about the same as TB4.
BFI Panel:
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I like that they have pods (Thunderbird 2 carries modules) that can be configured into different rescue vehicles, though it does make me wonder what most of the other numbered "modules" are for now.