Thought experiments with the cosmic mind,

[think]

Are we thinking yet?

do we even know how?

what is there left to think anyway.,

Oh as far as the experiment in thought, it comes from a double negative developed just for the new year.

1. We believe in hate, we also hate to believe. Why?

[It does not matter and no one really cares at this point, right?]

2. When our images become static on a tv after we are dead will they even know to free us from this prison?

[It does not matter and no one really cares at this point, right?]

3. Since I know the correct thoughts to think why do I not think them?

[It does not matter and no one really cares at this point, right?]

 

[All Seeing Eye]

pardon?

 

[Zulu Romeo]

I think, therefore I am.... I think.


Self-awareness and the questioning of our own ability to think is usually a sign of higher intelligence and a highly developed mind in any animal. I believe there's a certain threshold that is breached along a hypothetical spectrum depicting the level of complexity of the mammalian brain, and once that threshold is reached, anything is possible within the confines of that mind: in the case of development of humans, these have included problem solving, forward planning, executive decisions, taking initiative and manipulating our environment (e.g. using tools), even abstract thought and dreams, appreciation of emotions and primal urges, and the belief that there's something greater than ourselves.

Of course, the next threshold to be crossed (is there nothing more to think in this Universe?) is something even we cannot fully comprehend, simply because our brains aren't that well developed yet to consider the answer, let alone answer the question.

But what do I know, I'm a doctor, not a psychologist, dammit!

 

[judge alba]

Are we thinking yet?

do we even know how?

what is there left to think anyway.,

Oh as far as the experiment in thought, it comes from a double negative developed just for the new year.

1. We believe in hate, we also hate to believe. Why?

[It does not matter and no one really cares at this point, right?]

2. When our images become static on a tv after we are dead will they even know to free us from this prison?

[It does not matter and no one really cares at this point, right?]

3. Since I know the correct thoughts to think why do I not think them?

[It does not matter and no one really cares at this point, right?]

but what or who decides correct thought? what decides truth? indeed what is the truth? and what are lies ?
what is heaven? what is hell?
(this makes more sense after a few beers)

 

[Holdfast]

I think... I need another drink.

 

[RJDiogenes]

Not a bad poem.

 

[think]

I think, therefore I am.... I think.


Self-awareness and the questioning of our own ability to think is usually a sign of higher intelligence and a highly developed mind in any animal. I believe there's a certain threshold that is breached along a hypothetical spectrum depicting the level of complexity of the mammalian brain, and once that threshold is reached, anything is possible within the confines of that mind: in the case of development of humans, these have included problem solving, forward planning, executive decisions, taking initiative and manipulating our environment (e.g. using tools), even abstract thought and dreams, appreciation of emotions and primal urges, and the belief that there's something greater than ourselves.

Of course, the next threshold to be crossed (is there nothing more to think in this Universe?) is something even we cannot fully comprehend, simply because our brains aren't that well developed yet to consider the answer, let alone answer the question.

But what do I know, I'm a doctor, not a psychologist, dammit!

I have considered thinking again but to no avail actually

I think therefore I know
I know therefore I become
I become therefore I am (sorta-abriviated concept I am/was working on for a bit)

recursive redundancy pervades even the most normal of thoughts.

Thinking that I believe in hate, at the same time, I hate to believe: remains scratched upon the edge of reality where thoughts nexusize themselves as one.

As we wonder what is one to think if the thought of knowing means nothing?

Here knowing thy selves is meaning I don't know nothing (here the double negative simply is positive where as before there is the believing of hate and the hating to believe that becomes estranged)

 

[Zulu Romeo]

what is heaven? what is hell?
(this makes more sense after a few beers)

Hell is other people, and Heaven is me.***

(that makes sense after a LOT of beers and some "coffee" )



[*** Not actually true. The direction of travel of your spirit in the Afterlife can go down as well as up. Your soul is at risk if you do not keep up repayments on a Faustian deal or other loan secured on it. ]

 

[think]

Not a bad poem.

thanks! - It is almost conceptual in the spirit of being.

what is heaven? what is hell?
(this makes more sense after a few beers)

Hell is other people, and Heaven is me.***

(that makes sense after a LOT of beers and some "coffee" )



[*** Not actually true. The direction of travel of your spirit in the Afterlife can go down as well as up. Your soul is at risk if you do not keep up repayments on a Faustian deal or other loan secured on it. ]

Beer is not allowed (diabetic .,, et,c.) coffee has become additive, and again it needs to be curtailed in its budding growth before the coffee morphs into the mainline attempt of caffeine .., again..

We can muse the amused museum of life. (if we like)

and sitting in the mind of life's spirit we will know nothing is as everything was where we are now.

 

[Canadave]

Not a bad poem.

thanks! - It is almost conceptual in the spirit of being.

what is heaven? what is hell?
(this makes more sense after a few beers)

Hell is other people, and Heaven is me.***

(that makes sense after a LOT of beers and some "coffee" )



[*** Not actually true. The direction of travel of your spirit in the Afterlife can go down as well as up. Your soul is at risk if you do not keep up repayments on a Faustian deal or other loan secured on it. ]

Beer is not allowed (diabetic .,, et,c.) coffee has become additive, and again it needs to be curtailed in its budding growth before the coffee morphs into the mainline attempt of caffeine .., again..

We can muse the amused museum of life. (if we like)

and sitting in the mind of life's spirit we will know nothing is as everything was where we are now.

Ah, yes. Yes. Hmph. I see.

*smokes pipe and appears thoughtful*

 

[Kryton]

Get the idea cross around the track
Underneath the flank of a thoroughbread racing chaser

Once at the start can you gamble that you really, truly, really mean to finish.

After seeing all your sense of fear diminish,
As you see danger as pure collection
As you throw away misconception....

 

[Michael Chris]

Are we thinking yet?

Yes. That's it. That's all.

 

[Deks]

Most of the rules, regulations, morals, religions and everything else you can think of was made up by humanity.

Bottom line is, there are no universal rules.
The world (and the universe) in which we reside in is not black/white.
It's gray ... with extremes on all ends (all of which stem from nature itself ... so when someone tells me that something is 'not natural, I acknowledge it, but ultimately don't abide by it because almost always there is no proof to substantiate such a claim).

I always questioned (and still do) my own way thinking/decisions/actions because I know I cannot think in a capacity that I consider everything I do/say to be the truth (because it would be arrogant), when in fact I could be mistaken.
Which is why I operate on the premise to keep in mind the possibility that what I say/do could be inaccurate.
I also eliminated the word 'believe' (because it's mostly tied to the premise that one's opinions are absolute and not subject to change), nor do I think in such a capacity anymore.
Instead, for me there are only opinions, possibilities and theories (all of which are subject to change ... which I keep in mind).

As a species, we barely began to develop and understand how the world/universe functions.

A lot of people are also limited because of variety of factors.
'Way of thinking' would be the most prominent one.

I don't personally think that our brains are not developed enough to accomplish things some would deem as 'impossible'.
It's all in the head.
The cerebral cortex is the place where thought process originates.
If we want to change something, and achieve a different kind of result, then we have to change our perception.
Start seeing things in a different capacity.
Problem is, not too many people are capable of that.
'Ignorance is a bliss' (these are the words many people abide by ... which seems limiting in my personal opinion).

Also, not everybody uses the same thought process to accomplish the same goal.
What works for one individual won't necessarily work for others.

But these are just the tip of the iceberg.
And for the moment I'm quite tired (it's late), so I could use a good night's sleep.

 

[Michael Chris]

Your overuse of words impresses me.

 

[tharpdevenport]

Here's a thought for you:


A composer once said (Trevor Jones) that there is only 12 notes to compose with and we'll run out of conbinations in about 75 years.

Keeping that in mind, there are only so many words to use (variation can only work to such a degree) and one day, a long tiem from now, when every conbitnation has been said an done ... what then?

 

[Zulu Romeo]

Here's a thought for you:


A composer once said (Trevor Jones) that there is only 12 notes to compose with and we'll run out of conbinations in about 75 years.

Keeping that in mind, there are only so many words to use (variation can only work to such a degree) and one day, a long tiem from now, when every conbitnation has been said an done ... what then?

I'm assuming this includes exhaustion of all possible modes of music (Phygrian, Ionian, Lydian, Mixloydian, etc.) in all forms of scales (diatonic, pentatonic, and such and such). Western popular misuc currently restricts itself to a few modes and scales, and to expand its reprtoire further using those same 12 notes would mean to delve into other forms of "world" music forms (which use the other modes of music) and, erm, "adopting" them.

By the time these 12 notes are finally used up until one can't say any more, one would have to create music with a new set of rules, one that doesn't follow the standard sets of melodies and harmonies or indeed frequencies outlined by centuries of classical mathematical and musi8cal theory and practice. Of course it won't be to everyone's tastes...

 

[thestrangequark]

Here's a thought for you:


A composer once said (Trevor Jones) that there is only 12 notes to compose with and we'll run out of conbinations in about 75 years.

Keeping that in mind, there are only so many words to use (variation can only work to such a degree) and one day, a long tiem from now, when every conbitnation has been said an done ... what then?

Have you read the short story, "Melancholy Elephants" by Spider Robinson? I'd guess that you'd enjoy it -- though it might depress you. It depresses me.

 

[think]

Most of the rules, regulations, morals, religions and everything else you can think of was made up by humanity.

Bottom line is, there are no universal rules.

thinking change or constant flux is a good rule.,,

The world (and the universe) in which we reside in is not black/white.
It's gray ... with extremes on all ends (all of which stem from nature itself ... so when someone tells me that something is 'not natural, I acknowledge it, but ultimately don't abide by it because almost always there is no proof to substantiate such a claim).

what does natural actually include?
how does being nature make any difference anyway?

I always questioned (and still do) my own way thinking/decisions/actions because I know I cannot think in a capacity that I consider everything I do/say to be the truth (because it would be arrogant), when in fact I could be mistaken.
Which is why I operate on the premise to keep in mind the possibility that what I say/do could be inaccurate.
I also eliminated the word 'believe' (because it's mostly tied to the premise that one's opinions are absolute and not subject to change), nor do I think in such a capacity anymore.

I like this, and wonder if., changing the way things change is any different from changes in the first place?

Instead, for me there are only opinions, possibilities and theories (all of which are subject to change ... which I keep in mind).

As a species, we barely began to develop and understand how the world/universe functions.

A lot of people are also limited because of variety of factors.
'Way of thinking' would be the most prominent one.

I don't personally think that our brains are not developed enough to accomplish things some would deem as 'impossible'.
It's all in the head.
The cerebral cortex is the place where thought process originates.
If we want to change something, and achieve a different kind of result, then we have to change our perception.
Start seeing things in a different capacity.
Problem is, not too many people are capable of that.
'Ignorance is a bliss' (these are the words many people abide by ... which seems limiting in my personal opinion).

Also, not everybody uses the same thought process to accomplish the same goal.
What works for one individual won't necessarily work for others.

But these are just the tip of the iceberg.
And for the moment I'm quite tired (it's late), so I could use a good night's sleep.

brain and minds are two different functions in "my book" what makes me think is not what I think.,, If that can make sense.,

 

[Deks]

For me, there is essentially no difference between the 'brain' and 'mind'.
I prefer to use the term 'brain' or 'cerebral cortex' though as they sound a bit better.
Ultimately though, all imply the same thing.

 

[think]

Since I am aware of my brain wave patterns, I can change them. Thus allowing me to think new thoughts I have never had and experience alternate realities that never occurred to me. It is where the mind is limited by absolute infinite nothingness vs the brain and its wave patterns that are merely encapsulate into the an EM field of energy that limit them to this specific universe at hand.