A lot of early TNG was stuff created for Phase 2: Riker/Troi = Decker/Ilia fer instance.
Things that TNG brought to the table
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A lot of early TNG was stuff created for Phase 2: Riker/Troi = Decker/Ilia fer instance.
Absolutely. I'm in no way criticizing TOS for that clearly clever choice. I just think is was kind of cool, as the franchise opened up, that we got more info about our planet & system. It's another of those things, which came later, that can retrofit the earlier stuff. The Earth stuff actually began in the TOS movies. The solar system stuff came up more on the later series
Actually, we already had a balding guy in the part, is what I meant. lol
Somehow, I think the chief difference between Kirk and Picard, aside from appearance, is personality. Picard learned from the missteps of his wild days, and maybe overcompensated, whereas Kirk was a little more willing to throw caution to the wind and take a direct way out of a problem. But both were deeply rational, committed overall to peace, and were both broadly knowledgable. Picard was probably more introspective.
To answer the question, though, I think a lot of the Klingon honor and Kahless as a hero and so on in TNG is a possible answer. TOS Klingons are cold, calculating villains, whereas TNG invents and explores the whole concept of Klingon honor and also the language. "Colonel Worf" defending Kirk in ST VI is somehow applicable here!
To answer the question, though, I think a lot of the Klingon honor and Kahless as a hero and so on in TNG is a possible answer. TOS Klingons are cold, calculating villains, whereas TNG invents and explores the whole concept of Klingon honor and also the language. "Colonel Worf" defending Kirk in ST VI is somehow applicable here!
I do agree, even though I'm not sure if maybe the way Riker's role was depicted was generally more accurate to the XO in real navies?
It's hard to tell exactly what Decker's role should have been in TMP, because no sooner was he busted back down to XO he was also forced tp sub in the science officer role as well. But when Spock came back aboard, it seemed like Decker didn't have a regular position, as such.
I think Roddenberry's position wasn't so much that 23rd century Earth "can't" be depicted for logistical reasons, but more that he felt the series would suffer if it went there, that it wasn't part of the format. He felt the Enterprise needed to be 'out there on the final frontier' instead of constantly going back to Earth, because he felt there should be more fertile storytelling possibilities away from Earth. Judging by what the Star Trek writer's bible says on the subject, I gather he didn't want the Enterprise being tied down back at a 'home base' (a directive which, ironically, the movies ignored; and then so did TNG eventually as well).
Away Teams
IIRC an idea from David Gerrold in 'The World of Star Trek' where he pointed out what a bad idea of the commanding officer to constantly be beaming down into hazardous situations.
Transporter Bio-Filters
A nice idea but usually circumvented for story reasons.
Warp Core Ejection
Another great idea, except it always failed when you needed it the most. I think it was only actually ejected a couple of times, once in Nemesis and in Voyager. The TOS Enterprise had some colored hatched underneath the secondary hull of unknown purpose, one is described as an ejection hatch sometimes but how it would work with the old style warp core and was never mentioned as an option on screen.
Captain's Yacht
Seems standard on all major capital ships TNG onwards (the Defiant was too small for one, but it did have a detachable 'warhead' module).
IIRC an idea from David Gerrold in 'The World of Star Trek' where he pointed out what a bad idea of the commanding officer to constantly be beaming down into hazardous situations.
Transporter Bio-Filters
A nice idea but usually circumvented for story reasons.
Warp Core Ejection
Another great idea, except it always failed when you needed it the most. I think it was only actually ejected a couple of times, once in Nemesis and in Voyager. The TOS Enterprise had some colored hatched underneath the secondary hull of unknown purpose, one is described as an ejection hatch sometimes but how it would work with the old style warp core and was never mentioned as an option on screen.
Captain's Yacht
Seems standard on all major capital ships TNG onwards (the Defiant was too small for one, but it did have a detachable 'warhead' module).
There was a Captain's Yacht? Too bad, then, that we never saw one! Not until ST:INS, that is.
TNG defined the Klingons for us, inventing the Klingon lifestyle, form of government, biology and history where TOS had none yet. TNG also defined the Romulans; although there had been a tad more groundwork done in TOS, it had not created much of a definition, it had merely created (welcome) diversity through the two very dissimilar episodes that actually featured Romulan characters. Both species still remained generic bad guys without distinguishing features (other than the pointy ears on the Romulans) until TNG made Klingons the drunken boasters and Romulans the scheming totalitarians.
...Hey, I didn't say those would have been complex or intriguing or attractive definitions!
The Klingon definition had time to make it back to the TOS universe, too, although "Council Leader" became "Chancellor" and "Homeworld" became "Qo'noS"; bigger budgets added to the level of detail in other respects, but it was nice to have such additions in the writing, too.
Timo Saloniemi
TNG defined the Klingons for us, inventing the Klingon lifestyle, form of government, biology and history where TOS had none yet. TNG also defined the Romulans; although there had been a tad more groundwork done in TOS, it had not created much of a definition, it had merely created (welcome) diversity through the two very dissimilar episodes that actually featured Romulan characters. Both species still remained generic bad guys without distinguishing features (other than the pointy ears on the Romulans) until TNG made Klingons the drunken boasters and Romulans the scheming totalitarians.
...Hey, I didn't say those would have been complex or intriguing or attractive definitions!
The Klingon definition had time to make it back to the TOS universe, too, although "Council Leader" became "Chancellor" and "Homeworld" became "Qo'noS"; bigger budgets added to the level of detail in other respects, but it was nice to have such additions in the writing, too.
Timo Saloniemi
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