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Maybe I missed something, but is there any indication that Bond is NOT a code name? Maybe it is YOU that is relying on fan fiction speculation!
James Bond (Roger Moore) lays flowers at his late wife's tomb in For Your Eyes Only. When he married her, he had George Lazenby's face. It's definitely not just a code name.
 
Maybe Bond is a clone, they don't make any indication in the films he's not so he might be! :rolleyes:

If he was a clone, he would still look like Sean Connery. But it still is a better explanation than to accept that Judi Dench transported herself fourty years back into the past to hire a brand new James Bond while all the technology is still on today's standards!


What are you talking about? The bond films aren't based in real time, it's always the eternal present.
 
Wikipedia: It is the third screen adaptation of the Casino Royale novel, which was previously produced as a 1954 television episode and a 1967 satirical film. However, the 2006 film is the only EON Productions adaptation of Fleming's novel. It is a reboot of the Bond franchise, establishing a new timeline and narrative framework not meant to precede any previous film. This not only frees the Bond franchise from more than forty years of continuity, but allows the film to show a less experienced and more vulnerable Bond.

Huh...

In Prague, James Bond corners and kills corrupt MI6 section chief Dryden and, in a brutal fight in a changing room, his underworld contact Fisher, earning his double-O status, which requires two kills

Meaning it could not be meant precede a set of movies in which he is already a double-O.
 
But hey, they only wrote and directed the film, what would they know!

What did the guys who have written and directed Nemesis know?

:wtf:

What?

So let me get this straight - The director wanted to do a reboot, the studio wanted to do a reboot, so the writers wrote a reboot and then that's what they delivered.

*However* because the writers of an entirely different franchise did a bad job, it's not a reboot.

:wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf:
 
Wikipedia: It is the third screen adaptation of the Casino Royale novel, which was previously produced as a 1954 television episode and a 1967 satirical film. However, the 2006 film is the only EON Productions adaptation of Fleming's novel. It is a reboot of the Bond franchise, establishing a new timeline and narrative framework not meant to precede any previous film. This not only frees the Bond franchise from more than forty years of continuity, but allows the film to show a less experienced and more vulnerable Bond.

Wikipedia doesn't prove anything!
 
As far as I'm concerned, if it does turn out that everything that happens in the movie is reset to the way things were before Nero's interference, I will be FURIOUS; I mean, letter-writing, boycotting, "hot molten hate upon all canonistas until the end of time" furious. If anything damages my fandom of Star Trek in a permanent way, it will be a giant reset button on this movie.

Listen, I don't give one-tenth of one crap what movie, television series, or comic book has gotten away with it before. I don't even care that Star Trek itself has done it before, thereby making it something we should come to expect from the franchise. I cannot conceive of anything more abominably stupid than to create this bold, daring new vision of Star Trek only to more or less press the big "RESET" button and say, "Just kidding!"

And, oh, Hell hath no fury like mine if I find out it's because they're afraid of upsetting the hard-core Trek fans who just ADORE their canon. Their Trek hasn't gone ANYWHERE. It lives on in their memories and hearts, and in television reruns, DVDs, books, and comic books. As long as there are fans of it, someone will keep telling those tales. So these purists need to calm down, take a pill, and let someone else take the reins for a while. Lord knows they can't do more damage to Star Trek than Insurrection, Nemesis, and Enterprise did.
 
My take on the whole Romulan thing is Stiles, in that episode, is the only one who has a shocked reaction to the first view of the Romulans. Kirk, Sulu, Uhura and Spock seem to calmly take it in. Of course, Spock gives us his "bemused" eyebrow lift. The "main" cast dosen't seem phased by the appearance in "Balance of Terror," so it is possible to infer that they may have already seen the Romulans once before.

It may be stretching things a bit, but there's enough of a "hole" there to make an inference Moreover, how many times have we seen in Trek where events happen only to be kept secret by our cast of characters. This movie might be one of those instances. Or the whole damn thing might just fade away at the end of the film like the climatic battle in "Yesterday's Enterprise" as soon as the ENT-C enters the rift.
 
Wikipedia: It is the third screen adaptation of the Casino Royale novel, which was previously produced as a 1954 television episode and a 1967 satirical film. However, the 2006 film is the only EON Productions adaptation of Fleming's novel. It is a reboot of the Bond franchise, establishing a new timeline and narrative framework not meant to precede any previous film. This not only frees the Bond franchise from more than forty years of continuity, but allows the film to show a less experienced and more vulnerable Bond.

Wikipedia doesn't prove anything!


IMDB.COM
Tagline:

Everyone has a past. Every legend has a beginning. On November 17th, discover how James...became Bond.

In his first mission, James Bond must stop Le Chiffre, a banker to the world's terrorist organizations, from winning a high-stakes poker tournament at Casino Royale in Montenegro

Also the facts of the plot speak for themselves.
 
It may be stretching things a bit, but there's enough of a "hole" there to make an inference Moreover, how many times have we seen in Trek where events happen only to be kept secret by our cast of characters. This movie might be one of those instances.

Interesting idea. Perhaps the vast majority of the public is shielded from the nature of Romulans out of fear of racial reprisals against the Vulcans. Those in privileged positions, or out of necessity like the veterans of the Enterprise crew may have encountered them face-to-face but been ordered into silence.
 
James Bond (Roger Moore) lays flowers at his late wife's tomb in For Your Eyes Only. When he married her, he had George Lazenby's face. It's definitely not just a code name.

Just a minor continuity error.

Ah, I guess the fact that in 'The Spy who loved me' Major Amasova says about Bond that he had many love-affairs but was married only once is also just a 'minor continuity error' then? :rolleyes:
 
James Bond (Roger Moore) lays flowers at his late wife's tomb in For Your Eyes Only. When he married her, he had George Lazenby's face. It's definitely not just a code name.

Just a minor continuity error.

Ah, I guess the fact that in 'The Spy who loved me' Major Amasova says about Bond that he had many love-affairs but was married only once is also just a 'minor continuity error' then? :rolleyes:

To my mind, the Bond movies all featured the same CHARACTER, but different actors playing him. So, even though one set of movies had Connery as Bond, then one movie had Lazenby, then another set had Roger Moore, they were all in one continuity, following the same incarnation of Bond. The only slip in that theory is when Lazenby says, "This never happened to the other fellow", but I think that line was more of a wink to the viewer than anything plot-wise.

It's the same as the Batman films that started with Tim Burton's Batman and ended with Schumacher's Batman and Robin. I consider them part of the same continuity, with just different actors playing Batman.

But, once Batman Begins and Casino Royale, respectively, came around, it was a new continuity, a new beginning, and I'm thinking the new Star Trek is doing the same thing.
 
Just a minor continuity error.

Ah, I guess the fact that in 'The Spy who loved me' Major Amasova says about Bond that he had many love-affairs but was married only once is also just a 'minor continuity error' then? :rolleyes:

To my mind, the Bond movies all featured the same CHARACTER, but different actors playing him. So, even though one set of movies had Connery as Bond, then one movie had Lazenby, then another set had Roger Moore, they were all in one continuity, following the same incarnation of Bond. The only slip in that theory is when Lazenby says, "This never happened to the other fellow", but I think that line was more of a wink to the viewer than anything plot-wise.

It's the same as the Batman films that started with Tim Burton's Batman and ended with Schumacher's Batman and Robin. I consider them part of the same continuity, with just different actors playing Batman.

But, once Batman Begins and Casino Royale, respectively, came around, it was a new continuity, a new beginning, and I'm thinking the new Star Trek is doing the same thing.

You are absolutely right. :techman:
 
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