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They 'borrowed' the Defiant....
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They also didn't exactly "borrow" the Defiant and DS9's producers were not universally outraged.
Remember that Rick Berman was the top producer on both First Contact and DS9. He co-created the series. He had the final say on everything going on in both productions. Also, the co-writer of First Contact was Ronald D. Moore, who was a producer and writer on DS9 and was even the one who originally named the Defiant when it was introduced.
So it's not like a bunch of outsiders came in and hijacked something from DS9 to make the movie.
Remember that Rick Berman was the top producer on both First Contact and DS9. He co-created the series. He had the final say on everything going on in both productions. Also, the co-writer of First Contact was Ronald D. Moore, who was a producer and writer on DS9 and was even the one who originally named the Defiant when it was introduced.
So it's not like a bunch of outsiders came in and hijacked something from DS9 to make the movie.
I somehow forgot both of those shows did that.And I also think back on when Transformers Beast Wars redesigned the Autobot Ark to look suspiciously like the Defiant, at least in part.
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Or when a repainted Jem'Hadar ship showed up in Young Justice.
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Neither of which I have a problem with, for the record.
A Cardassian Keldon class schematic also shows up in both Clone Wars
and Ultimate Spider-Man
The exact same art too
No they didn't.
Ronald D. Moore (who co-wrote the movie) has said no version of the script ever said the Defiant was destroyed, the script just didn't make it clear that it hadn't been destroyed so Ira Steven Behr assumed it was.
I'm assuming the 'adrift but salvageable' line was added to make it clearer.
Galactica also shows up on the cover of the TNG novel 'Ghost Ship'
There was a Star Trek comic from the late 2010s I believe, where there were Orion ships that were kitbashed design, I don't remember what the main body was, but ring drive was a Stargate.
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The original idea was that another vessel, the USS Endeavour, would be destroyed. Eaves made concept art for it:
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But the script was later changed to add the Defiant as a way for Worf to return to the Enterprise, so the Defiant replaced the Endeavour, and was only damaged, not destroyed.
Huh I've never seen that concept before, neat.The original idea was that another vessel, the USS Endeavour, would be destroyed. Eaves made concept art for it:
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But the script was later changed to add the Defiant as a way for Worf to return to the Enterprise, so the Defiant replaced the Endeavour, and was only damaged, not destroyed.
to be fair to beast wars, the ArkAnd I also think back on when Transformers Beast Wars redesigned the Autobot Ark to look suspiciously like the Defiant, at least in part.
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Or when a repainted Jem'Hadar ship showed up in Young Justice.
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Neither of which I have a problem with, for the record.
always kinda looked like that
That's why I used an image to show which part was made to look more like the Defiant.to be fair to beast wars, the Ark
always kinda looked like that
Actually, they cut a reference to Jadzia being alive because she wasn't anymore when the movie was released.
just a tiny bit of rhinoplasty
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