There's no such thing as free energy.. Or perpetual energy.

[Candleicious Ghost]

I smell a con or deliberate misinformation.

There is no such thing ever in any way you slice it as "free energy"

http://www.wickedejuice.com/content...to-bring-the-orbo-never-die-battery-to-market

Yeah.. Right sure..

 

[Asbo Zaprudder]

It appears to use an electret -- the electrostatic analogue of a permanent magnet. As electrets are insulators and don't conduct electricity, I'm not sure how you integrate them into a circuit. They'd behave somewhat like a permanently charged capacitor (although all electrets are believed to eventually discharge). I suppose they're using them like a piezoelectric element to generate an ignition spark. Whether energy is conserved, I don't know. I seem to recall that the ZPE crowd claim you can use a combination of electrets and magnets to extract EM energy from the vacuum although I don't know how it would be harnessed.

 

[farmkid]

There was phrase in there that something about "self-charging". Could this be something like a self-winding watch? Some kind of device that harnesses energy from the normal movement associated with use and carrying the thing around to charge the battery?

If that's the case, it wouldn't be a perpetual motion machine, but just a device to capture energy that would be lost otherwise.

Or it's a load of crap. More likely that.

 

[Taylirious]

If you look for it, I've got a sneaky feeling you'll find that energy actually is all around. wait...

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Bomp. Bomp. Bomp bomp, bomp-bomp.

PURE ENERGY.

 

[Asbo Zaprudder]

There was phrase in there that something about "self-charging". Could this be something like a self-winding watch? Some kind of device that harnesses energy from the normal movement associated with use and carrying the thing around to charge the battery?

If that's the case, it wouldn't be a perpetual motion machine, but just a device to capture energy that would be lost otherwise.

Or it's a load of crap. More likely that.

Yeah, I thought it must use some form of kinetic or EM field harvesting though they apparently claim not.

 

[Venardhi]

They've been around for a decade and are yet to demonstrate their "technology" is anything but fantasy.

 

[Asbo Zaprudder]

[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfZ12UGiisM[/yt]

 

[ancient]

Stuff like this baffles me, because it's such an obvious scam.

 

[Candleicious Ghost]

That looked like a good episode.

What the hell the quoting did not work?

 

[Candleicious Ghost]

Trying this again does this work?

 

[sojourner]

The ability to post youtube videos is a hack built in to vbulletin. It doesn't respond well when you try to quote said posts.

 

[Asbo Zaprudder]

That looked like a good episode.

The Naked Time -- George Takei's favourite episode I believe.

 

[publiusr]

The closest thing to a perpetual motion machine was the big barometer clock known as Cox's timepiece filled with 150 pounds of mercury
Not true perpetual motion--the rising and falling of the mercury column kept the clock wound without human intervention.

 

[scotpens]

The closest thing to a perpetual motion machine was the big barometer clock known as Cox's timepiece filled with 150 pounds of mercury. Not true perpetual motion--the rising and falling of the mercury column kept the clock wound without human intervention.

So it was dependent on changes in air pressure -- meaning it was no more a "perpetual motion machine" than a windmill is.

But some folks just have to believe that you can get something for nothing.

 

[publiusr]

Ultimately you could say that both the timepiece and the windmill are solar powered--except the windmill would seize up before the timepiece. That clock might have outlasted a solar panel, which degrades over time.

Then too, what with the big rip supposed to come as dark energy grows--you might say the universe itself is such a machine.

 

[Crazy Eddie]

I smell a con or deliberate misinformation.

There is no such thing ever in any way you slice it as "free energy"

If there was, they wouldn't be marketing it for eCigarette batteries.

 

[Dryson]

The Sun is a form of free energy.

 

[ancient]

The only source of free energy was the big bang, which created the entire universe using only a rubber band and a paperclip.

 

[Asbo Zaprudder]

Even the Inflaton field is zero sum.